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Thread: Ancient genomes of Srubnaya, Cimmerians, Scythians and Sarmatians(Science, 2018)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I'm somewhat skeptical about the Subclade predictions. The actual study notes that both the E-V13 and I2a2a Scythian are in fact R1b-M269
    Im not sure. The BAM was examined by Semargl at Yfull. If they are that grossly incorrect then it brings into question the whole point of that website wouldn't it? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bardock View Post
    Im not sure. The BAM was examined by Semargl at Yfull. If they are that grossly incorrect then it brings into question the whole point of that website wouldn't it? lol
    I think Semargl may be correct, perhaps it's a problem created by the people that made the paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I think Semargl may be correct, perhaps it's a problem created by the people that made the paper.
    Could be. They could be very rudimentary calculations based upon trace data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I'm somewhat skeptical about the Subclade predictions. The actual study notes that both the E-V13 and I2a2a Scythian are in fact R1b-M269
    Why? Both E-v13 and I2a2a were probably widespread back then.Also E-v13 is the most common subclade of E that is found in every country in Europe.

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    Semargl was correct, only Z280 in Srubna and P312 in Scythian remains is somewhat intriguing but not impossible.

    Maybe they had fake calls for M269? It is not uncommon in some of the studies.

    We won't know for sure without any explanation done by the authors themselves.
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