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Thread: Depression: Is most of it caused by Atheism nowadays?

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    I don't agree with this religious attribution to depression.
    I think the biggest cause of depression nowadays is due to the lack of human intercourse, honesty, and fidelity, people are taking this abject social codes from the mediatized celebrities and disconnected political elites that are sadly mistaken for role models.
    We should learn how to live simpler lives and enjoy the present instant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    I don't agree with this religious attribution to depression.
    I think the biggest cause of depression nowadays is due to the lack of human intercourse, honesty, and fidelity, people are taking this abject social codes from the mediatized celebrities and disconnected political elites that are sadly mistaken for role models.
    We should learn how to live simpler lives and enjoy the present instant.
    You mention a certain level of depression, or the causes of it. And yes, I agree with these things... but... there is a certain level in your person that can only be satisfied by fellowship with God. Human beings were originally created to have fellowship with God, to worship him and to receive feedback from God. A godly circle of fulfillment. And that is the deepest part of your being that cannot be satisfied by anything other than God himself, and being in his presence.

    I understand that this may be difficult to comprehend for those who have not had the pleasure of experiencing the presence of God. But let tell you, it is something, it is real, and it is profound.. and our beings desire God, without us even realising it. Thirst can only be quenched by water (or fluid), hunger can only be alleviated by food intake, and in the same way we have this part in our spirit that can only be satisfied by God's presence. Many people are often searching for "something" in their lives, without knowing what it is they are looking for... or trying to find out what it is they are "missing". Well, it is this....
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    Atheists have nothing to hope for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    You mention a certain level of depression, or the causes of it. And yes, I agree with these things... but... there is a certain level in your person that can only be satisfied by fellowship with God. Human beings were originally created to have fellowship with God, to worship him and to receive feedback from God. A godly circle of fulfillment. And that is the deepest part of your being that cannot be satisfied by anything other than God himself, and being in his presence.

    I understand that this may be difficult to comprehend for those who have not had the pleasure of experiencing the presence of God. But let tell you, it is something, it is real, and it is profound.. and our beings desire God, without us even realising it. Thirst can only be quenched by water (or fluid), hunger can only be alleviated by food intake, and in the same way we have this part in our spirit that can only be satisfied by God's presence. Many people are often searching for "something" in their lives, without knowing what it is they are looking for... or trying to find out what it is they are "missing". Well, it is this....
    Loki, You and I are seeing the world from a different stands, but we are looking to the same target: finding the reason for existing.
    I asked myself this question too many times, and came to the plain conclusion that the divine could only be defined as the higher consciousness of interacting forms of life, i think that all existent lives are matrixed somehow, and we are all part of the divine (the existence is by its definition miraculous), our course to find God can be described as an essay to understand our bigger soul within this universe.
    With some retreat i consider my self atheist because i don't puzzle out the implication of belief in our personal life.
    I'm anti-dogmatic not anti-theist, what troubles me the most is the human interpretation of natural signs and the singularization of God or impersonating it in a form of Creator/Creation type of cult that resembles more to slavery.
    Finally, i think that the question of believing or not in a supreme being have to do with each individual past, and social position, i don't expect anyone to merely agree with my thoughts, everybody has his own path to pursue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Atheists have nothing to hope for.
    There is nothing to hope for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
    Loki, You and I are seeing the world from a different stands, but we are looking to the same target: finding the reason for existing.
    I asked myself this question too many times, and came to the plain conclusion that the divine could only be defined as the higher consciousness of interacting forms of life, i think that all existent lives are matrixed somehow, and we are all part of the divine (the existence is by its definition miraculous), our course to find God can be described as an essay to understand our bigger soul within this universe.
    With some retreat i consider my self atheist because i don't puzzle out the implication of belief in our personal life.
    I'm anti-dogmatic not anti-theist, what troubles me the most is the human interpretation of natural signs and the singularization of God or impersonating it in a form of Creator/Creation type of cult that resembles more to slavery.
    Finally, i think that the question of believing or not in a supreme being have to do with each individual past, and social position, i don't expect anyone to merely agree with my thoughts, everybody has his own path to pursue.
    No my friend, you are wrong about this. And your conclusions are incorrect.

    I'm not finding a reason for existing -- I have already found it, and it is the same reason that all humans share -- but not all know it.

    And no.. the question of believing in a "supreme being" has nothing to do with my past, social position, or whatever. You see... you don't think God really exists. I also don't think so.. I KNOW he does. There is a big difference.

    So in conclusion -- you think you understand where I am coming from, but you are missing it entirely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by İrle View Post
    There is nothing to hope for.
    For you, correct. But for those who have accepted Jesus as Saviour, there is a whole eternity in glory to hope for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    For you, correct. But for those who have accepted Jesus as Saviour, there is a whole eternity in glory to hope for.
    Sure, everyone needs something to keep them busy and happy in their lives. When the death comes, there will be no such thing as regret after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by İrle View Post
    Sure, everyone needs something to keep them busy and happy in their lives. When the death comes, there will be no such thing as regret after all.
    On the contrary, there's going to be a lot of regret for a lot of people...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    It has nothing to do with a lack of religion and everything to do with a genetic predisposition.

    You're confusing a sense of community with the effects of religion on a person. The Amish score high on happiness. They have a sense of community. But they also suck big balls. If we were all like the Amish we would be conquered by a less happier people who are motivated to improve their lives by inventing more efficient ways of doing things, which leads to kicking the ass of people who are less efficient in doing things.

    If you truly want to be happy (and not the cheap happiness that comes from the comfort and security of belonging to a community) then you'd choose an environment where surviving each day feels like a great accomplishment (in other words you don't die) or work on something difficult that you will complete (learn a new language, be able to do 1000 sit ups in a day, etc.)

    Accomplishing something difficult that you put a great deal of effort and work makes you happy.
    Those things obviously don't make everybody happy, but I would agree only to say that I think people need things of that nature in their lives (having goals, working hard, accomplishments, etc).

    Alas, I have built my fair share of sand castles and dreadful monuments of misery.

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