MGTOW: The boomers are noticing us!

**Dragoon** · 10-06-2018, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by pulstar

I'm probably not the right person to say this but I think Western society is in deep state of decay.

Many people know about the decay/decadence in the society. Others embrace it.

Seven steps in the life cycles of great powers

by this person: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bagot_Glubb

1. The age of outburst (or pioneers).
2. The age of conquests.
3. The age of commerce.
4. The age of affluence.
5. The age of intellect.
6. The age of decadence.
7. The age of decline and collapse.

https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/th...-america-today

**~~pulstar~~** · 10-06-2018, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

I agree with you. As a matter of fact, I have to get my hands on that book for some time now. I think that my country needs to do are three steps: 1. Change the constitution and rescind all female suffrage for all non-married women with those married may only vote when they have children and are over 25. 2. Cease all alimony and child support payments in case of divorce. 3. Cease all support for feminist organizations by cutting state support for leftist programs in universities.

That way, the Left will start losing control over the entire system. Three easy steps but they have to be taken and taken quickly.

I agree with your points 2 and 3, but I think number 1 is a bit too harsh.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-06-2018, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by pulstar

I agree with your points 2 and 3, but I think number 1 is a bit too harsh.

It's not harsh, otherwise they will vote for the Left which will stop points 2 and 3 in a heart beat. Most women here vote for the far Left.

**~~pulstar~~** · 10-06-2018, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

It's not harsh, otherwise they will vote for the Left which will stop points 2 and 3 in a heart beat. Most women here vote for the far Left.

I think people won't accept too much orthodoxy. After all I see orthodoxy as radicalism plus time, and most of the ideas we present here are radical in our historical time frame. However, I agree that majority of people (not just women, but young men too) can't really understand social processes at least until the age of 21-22, so perhaps Americans are right when they set the voting right at the age of 21.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-06-2018, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by pulstar

I think people won't accept too much orthodoxy. After all I see orthodoxy as radicalism plus time, and most of the ideas we present here are radical in our historical time frame. However, I agree that majority of people (not just women, but young men too) can't really understand social processes at least until the age of 21-22, so perhaps Americans are right when they set the voting right at the age of 21.

Actually: the human brain doesn't stop developing until 27. It was 21 here until 1971. Before that 23 and 25.

**~~pulstar~~** · 10-06-2018, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Actually: the human brain doesn't stop developing until 27. It was 21 here until 1971. Before that 23 and 25.

That's fine, but I was referring to the fact that most people don't get to see things the way they really are until early 20's. Especially with the need for higher education. Thirthy or forty years ago people could see how the world works earlier, because you would get involved in it at the age of 18, 19 perhaps 20 or 21, as there was no such high demand for highly educated work force. Today, by the time you graduate on university you are 23-24, but that blink of wisdom usually happens earlier. Of course, for some it doesn't happen even when they are over 30, for some it never happen.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-06-2018, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by pulstar

That's fine, but I was referring to the fact that most people don't get to see things the way they really are until early 20's. Especially with the need for higher education. Thirthy or forty years ago people could see how the world works earlier, because you would get involved in it at the age of 18, 19 perhaps 20 or 21, as there was no such high demand for highly educated work force. Today, by the time you graduate on university you are 23-24, but that blink of wisdom usually happens earlier. Of course, for some it doesn't happen even when they are over 30, for some it never happen.

But then, you wouldn't want to take non-drastic measures by allowing people to vote that are 1) immature 2) voting for the Left. In fact: I would set the right to vote for men at 25 as well.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-06-2018, 08:44 AM

So when confronted with this situation ? I don't think that soft measures are going to help you out. You have to fight the very source. Otherwise you're wasting your time and fighting symptoms and then you might just as well let it be. So there are two options: drastic action or inaction.

**~~pulstar~~** · 10-06-2018, 09:20 AM

I think both extremes are wrong (as in complete left or complete right perspective). It stops individual from learning by getting insight and further develop both himself and system he is part of.