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    Default Arab trying to interpret Jewish and European results

    I've recently received my MyHeritage results.

    I am part of the Arab minority in Israel, and to my knowledge, the rest of my family are also Arab, and Muslim. I don't really understand the difference between the different Gedmatch tests that well, so I'll just post a whole bunch of different ones. I'm really interested to see what you think.

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    Hello mate.
    The first thing you need to understand is that there is strong misconception in Israel.
    When Jews say "I'm polish" or "I'm Iraqi" or "I'm Moroccan" they are extremely different from gentile Poles, Iraqis or Moroccans.
    Although many try to deny, most/ a lot of the Jewish DNA comes actually from Israel (ancient Judea) and most Jewish groups are descendants of the biblical Israelites, and that's why you see some proximity to many Jewish groups in your oracle and in myheritage. You are not really 16% Mizrahi Jewish like myheritage says, it's just that Mizrahi Jews (and Jews in general) are somewhat similar to palestinians- common Middle eastern Ancestry.

    2. Your gedmatch results supports what you know about yourself- you are Arab Israeli/Palestinian, Levantine. Very similar to other levantines like Syrians, Lebanese, Mizrahi Jews and similar groups. It seems like you might have recent Caucasus Ancestry (Gedmatch) or recent North African (myheritage) but it might be just noise.
    Overall pretty typical palestinian.

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    The modules of Gedmatch are just guesses - for example someone that is 50% Kurdish Jew and 50% Egyptian Jew will be genetically similar to you. the @number means how good is the guess. Smaller number- Better guess.
    But again just guesses, and some calculators aren't good.
    Can you post Harrpapa world oracle?

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    Arab Jews and Mizrahi are very similar genetically to their neighbouring Arab & Middle Eastern people.

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    Ahleen!

    Ignore the Jewish categories. They overlap with Levantines because they're same or similar.
    Most importantly, ignore Puntdnal K15. Everyone is a Palestinian in that calculator.

    What city are you from?

    Can you run MDLP K16?

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    Thanks to all who have replied!

    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    Hello mate.
    The first thing you need to understand is that there is strong misconception in Israel.
    When Jews say "I'm polish" or "I'm Iraqi" or "I'm Moroccan" they are extremely different from gentile Poles, Iraqis or Moroccans.
    Although many try to deny, most/ a lot of the Jewish DNA comes actually from Israel (ancient Judea) and most Jewish groups are descendants of the biblical Israelites, and that's why you see some proximity to many Jewish groups in your oracle and in myheritage. You are not really 16% Mizrahi Jewish like myheritage says, it's just that Mizrahi Jews (and Jews in general) are somewhat similar to palestinians- common Middle eastern Ancestry.

    2. Your gedmatch results supports what you know about yourself- you are Arab Israeli/Palestinian, Levantine. Very similar to other levantines like Syrians, Lebanese, Mizrahi Jews and similar groups. It seems like you might have recent Caucasus Ancestry (Gedmatch) or recent North African (myheritage) but it might be just noise.
    Overall pretty typical palestinian.
    Another person from my town, which is pretty small with less than 30 thousand inhabitants, is from a different, but related family. That person got 59% middle eastern on myheritage and no Mizrahi Jewish. My one-to-many comparison also includes some obvious Jewish matches, although all admittedly only between 9 and 15 cM, which I guess is a negligible result.

    Quote Originally Posted by DR_2001 View Post
    The modules of Gedmatch are just guesses - for example someone that is 50% Kurdish Jew and 50% Egyptian Jew will be genetically similar to you. the @number means how good is the guess. Smaller number- Better guess.
    But again just guesses, and some calculators aren't good.
    Can you post Harrpapa world oracle?
    HarappaWorld 4-Ancestors Oracle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levant15 View Post
    Ahleen!

    Ignore the Jewish categories. They overlap with Levantines because they're same or similar.
    Most importantly, ignore Puntdnal K15. Everyone is a Palestinian in that calculator.

    What city are you from?

    Can you run MDLP K16?

    Sent from my FRD-L04 using Tapatalk
    I'm from a town in the Galilee

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    Your result shows that Israeli Arabs/Palestinians are basically very Levantine to the area and probably resemble the original "Jews" to extent. The European results might be from the brutal Crusades.
    My genetic results
    1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +50% BedouinA @ 2.879975


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    Quote Originally Posted by StonyArabia View Post
    Your result shows that Israeli Arabs/Palestinians are basically very Levantine to the area and probably resemble the original "Jews" to extent. The European results might be from the brutal Crusades.
    Which Crusade was the most brutal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rein View Post
    Which Crusade was the most brutal?
    All of them were barbaric and savage
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    1 50% Azeri_Dagestan +50% BedouinA @ 2.879975


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    I bet his European is due to shared ancestry with other Mediterranean peoples and not related to crusaders (most Middle Easterners score either Greek or Italian on MyHeritage).

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