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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGuy20 View Post
    Apparently it is a little common in North Germany according to my grandmother (who is from Lower Saxony). My mother, grandmother and both her parents have/had red hair.
    Prob the same 1% as Northern Italy. Red hair is the most common in Ireland

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    I know about this singer who appeared once in Eurovision from Germany and he had a full set of curly red hair. Pretty cool, i'd say



    and he lowkey looks like Prince Harry with longer hair in the second photo.
    Name is Michael Schulte.

    and also this one singer from Germany.



    Although his name is a bit suspicious, so he could as well be mixed.
    Name is Pierre Steffen Baigorry.

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    Yes I have Red haired family members.
    (Northern Bavaria)

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    Red-blond is relatively common among ethnic Germans. In most of Poland it would be atypical for red hair to exceed 1-2% including any shade of discernibly red hair, while in much of Germany this frequency would be typical if red-blond were to be excluded.

    A 1958 survey of 2004 schoolchildren in Münster, Westphalia (https://books.google.com/books?dq=Mü...BEAS8Q6AEIRDAE) found a high 6.19% Reds on the Fischer-Saller Scale, but 79% of this was red blond. Beddoe almost a century before identified Westphalia as having a remarkable number of red blonds, yet relatively few pronounced redheads. In the 1870s Virchow found that when observers were specifically told to exclude to exclude red blond hair and restrict to bright orange (brandrothe), the red hair percentages in the German Empire were significantly lower than he expected. Only Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was over 1% brandrothe, and Virchow found that such hair in the state was around 10x times more common there than the rest of Thuringia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FilleDuRoi View Post
    Red-blond is relatively common among ethnic Germans. In most of Poland it would be atypical for red hair to exceed 1-2% including any shade of discernibly red hair, while in much of Germany this frequency would be typical if red-blond were to be excluded.

    A 1958 survey of 2004 schoolchildren in Münster, Westphalia (https://books.google.com/books?dq=Mü...BEAS8Q6AEIRDAE) found a high 6.19% Reds on the Fischer-Saller Scale, but 79% of this was red blond. Beddoe almost a century before identified Westphalia as having a remarkable number of red blonds, yet relatively few pronounced redheads. In the 1870s Virchow found that when observers were specifically told to exclude to exclude red blond hair and restrict to bright orange (brandrothe), the red hair percentages in the German Empire were significantly lower than he expected. Only Saxe-Coburg-Gotha was over 1% brandrothe, and Virchow found that such hair in the state was around 10x times more common there than the rest of Thuringia.
    well i have made a study by my own ,in the end 1990's ,with books, atlas,encyclopedia a ruler etc,before internet ,even lacking of universitarian books at this time ,but i had find some very interresting informations,for sure it was very amateur, but there is a strip of land in europe where the blondish-red/reddish-blond population is more common aside ireland between these parallels,between and upper the 50th north and under the 55/54th North, in germany,netherlands,poland,belgian flemish region,the baltic-finnish countries with belaruss with a different range shades and chromatics,and something than you could extrapolate at a closed and compacted north-eastern european area but staying central around the core of northern germany ,northern netherlands and the northiest landers ,it's the genes of the germano-celt frank populations,when the chesnuts meet the blondiests and have offspring ,at the south of these two parallels there almost non existant and at the northest aside the denmark and at very rare cases amid the native fenno-scandian population there are also almost non existant,at the south too latin/med and at the north too germano-scandinavian for taking big shortcuts ,it's a genetical mix of the celts combined with the germans,germans in the sens of teutonic meaning from the former native european stock cradle but centralised in this north-east central area,I know it very well because i'am a fond of the girls from these areas

    this is the perfect example , i really like as hair colors between the blonde and the red, she's an amazing reddish-blonde or blonddish-red german model, (from my personal collection),something where the chromatics of the blonde have red in the light spectrum,from a german professional site ,you'll see the chromas not blonde neither redhead but in between ,but it's very rare, shades like this ,with the dominant golden blonde luminance






    you could find also amid this population more fenno-scandian facial european traits,meaning higher cheek bones and more snub noses,it's widespread until russia,because the true native europeans are from the neanderthalis branch,at least partially, and one of the charateristics of homo neanderthalis,that's..... tada! they were pale white leucodermic and reddish and i stand on my theories, that is pleasing you or not



    pretty fucking "european" isn't it? aside the big noses potatoe-like




    than even at MUSE science museum of Corso del Lavoro e della Scienza, , Trento, Italy they represent them even more "modern european",maybe a bit too much ,i believe than they weren't so fine,more paleo less gracile ,she don't look happy to make the washing chore,lol


    truelly an amazing forensic work below

    The Neanderthal woman's remains were found in Gibraltar.
    (Image: © Royal Pavilion & Museums; Brighton & Hove)
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolfrenchguy View Post
    well i have made a study by my own ,in the end 1990's ,with books, atlas,encyclopedia a ruler etc,before internet ,even lacking of universitarian books at this time ,but i had find some very interresting informations,for sure it was very amateur, but there is a strip of land in europe where the blondish-red/reddish-blond population is more common aside ireland between these parallels,between and upper the 50th north and under the 55/54th North, in germany,netherlands,poland,belgian flemish region,the baltic-finnish countries with belaruss with a different range shades and chromatics,and something than you could extrapolate at a closed and compacted north-eastern european area but staying central around the core of northern germany ,northern netherlands and the northiest landers ,it's the genes of the germano-celt frank populations,when the chesnuts meet the blondiests and have offspring ,at the south of these two parallels there almost non existant and at the northest aside the denmark and at very rare cases amid the native fenno-scandian population there are also almost non existant,at the south too latin/med and at the north too germano-scandinavian for taking big shortcuts ,it's a genetical mix of the celts combined with the germans,germans in the sens of teutonic meaning from the former native european stock cradle but centralised in this north-east central area,I know it very well because i'am a fond of the girls from these areas

    this is the perfect example , i really like as hair colors between the blonde and the red, she's an amazing reddish-blonde or blonddish-red german model, (from my personal collection),something where the chromatics of the blonde have red in the light spectrum,from a german professional site ,you'll see the chromas not blonde neither redhead but in between ,but it's very rare, shades like this ,with the dominant golden blonde luminance






    you could find also amid this population more fenno-scandian facial european traits,meaning higher cheek bones and more snub noses,it's widespread until russia,because the true native europeans are from the neanderthalis branch,at least partially, and one of the charateristics of homo neanderthalis,that's..... tada! they were pale white leucodermic and reddish and i stand on my theories, that is pleasing you or not



    pretty fucking "european" isn't it? aside the big noses potatoe-like




    than even at MUSE science museum of Corso del Lavoro e della Scienza, , Trento, Italy they represent them even more "modern european",maybe a bit too much ,i believe than they weren't so fine,more paleo less gracile ,she don't look happy to make the washing chore,lol


    truelly an amazing forensic work below

    The Neanderthal woman's remains were found in Gibraltar.
    (Image: © Royal Pavilion & Museums; Brighton & Hove)
    That girl is just blond. No red hair visible. The mixture between blond and red is called strawberry blond.

    The girl on the right is a strawberry blond.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GabrielZ View Post
    It's something more localized in north russia, isn't it?
    It's common in Udmurtia. In pre-revolutionary times the Northern territories of Udmurtia were considered the Russian North.

    Udmurtia marked in red.
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    Here's chart based on the data from Estonian anthropologist Karin Mark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley View Post
    That girl is just blond. No red hair visible. The mixture between blond and red is called strawberry blond.

    The girl on the right is a strawberry blond.

    it's what's you anglos call it strawbbery blonde ,but is more a reddish pulling on the blondish call sometimes venitian blonde,your example looks like more irish/scottish girls or from this ancestry with green eyes,sorry but the girl at the right seems more reddish copper-like than blonde, there is a huge difference between the red and the yellow in the chroma luminance spectrum,for shortcutting blondes are yellow and redheads are nearer of the mahogany wood,there are not really red,the pigments of the hairs change from the dark red mahogany wood-like,otherwise called auburn with a strong addmixture of eumelanin to the light blonde yelloish without eumelanin addmixture but if the MC1R gene is present in a lesser quantity then it's adding to the blonde base material some reddish chromas at a more or less intensity,with a stronger concentration of pheomelanin then the reddish base or the blonde base,became a mix balanced between the MC1R gene and the pheomelanin level
    ok 70/100% of pheomelanin = blonde/redhead with more or less concentration of MC1R
    70/100% of eumelanin =chesnut,brown,dark raven but redness is more a combination of 65% of eumelanin with 35% of pheomelanin
    thiazin/alpha-aminae produced by the tyrosin(some are really needy here) pheomelanin=proto-germano-celts,proto-scandinavians,proto-slavics from the homo neanderthalis legacy
    eumelanin=proto-latin,proto-mediterraneans and also proto-germano-celts too and others various former native european tribes

    finnish horses smallest category with a strong pheomelanin rate in there "hairs" (aside if there using peroxide H2O2 l'oreal,but i'am doubting)
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