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Thread: Is R1a-Z93 originally Iranian or Turanian?

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    Spaniards don’t, but Jews who converted to Catholicism might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Can the project fund a Y-37 for me? The tests are expensive and I'm low on money these days. My line is from Belarus, I want to know if it's truly Balto-Slavic because at the Y12 level I get a lot of weird Balkar and Jewish matches and I can't believe my line is Asian. Autosomally my father gets none of that stuff. Maybe someone is interested in testing Belarus Y-DNA, my grandfather was from Minsk oblast, his father was presumably local too.
    R-M512 doesn't that originate in Russia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    My father is not a Morisco, Arab or Jew, not that I know of. My mother seems to be of partial Sephardic Jew or Converso background, though. Still, we're talking about Y-DNA here. I've read a bit about R-Z93 and it's plausible it came along with troops of Scythians or tribes alike to northern Spain in places like Asturias, the place where my surname hails from. The Visigoths, the Suebi people and other Germanic peoples settled the northwestern coast of Spain, maybe they merged with the Central Asian tribes or assimilated Scythians/Alans as their own, dunno. Some people from Asturias bear this same haplogroup from information I've gathered on forums.

    I've also read R-Z93 is the most common in the Altai region of Russia. 23AndMe indicates as follows (about my paternal haplogroup):



    Please read the bolded part. I think it's pretty conclusive.

    Which is the bestest test for subclades?
    That 23andMe blurb is irrelevant to you. It's talking about the parent group of R-Z93.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artek View Post
    That's why aDNA is the most important.
    Can you share your Eurogenes K13 and Dodecad K12b results? I've never seen them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samario View Post
    OK, guys. My Y-DNA is marked as Z93 and my father's lineage comes from Spain. So you're telling me Turkic tribes settled in Spain centuries ago?

    Other forumers claim it is of Alanic origin.
    Which part of Spain?

    Can you post your full subclade please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artek View Post
    Most of R1a in Arabs seems to be Persian/Mede in origin,
    Epic fail. M420* is a Turkic middle eastern marker, not even close to Persians. Get a life looser.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    It is originally Indo-European and there were no Turkics in Spain.
    It is originally Turkic and there were no Indo-European R1a in Spain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp Snow View Post
    Indo-European>Iranic>Turanian
    Turanian (Ural-Altaic)>Iranic>Indo-European


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    Quote Originally Posted by Proto-Shaman View Post
    Turanian (Ural-Altaic)>Iranic>Indo-European
    than why it has higher frequency in Persians than in Azerbaijanis or Turkey?

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