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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Why boot out Greece, Germany, and Spain?
    You misread. I said: booting out Eastern Europe. Germany, Greece and Spain aren't Eastern Europe.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    You misread. I said: booting out Eastern Europe. Germany, Greece and Spain aren't Eastern Europe.
    Why are Spain, Germany, and Greece light blue? You wrote "Greece and Turkey will be relieved of their duties."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Óttar View Post
    Why are Spain, Germany, and Greece light blue? You wrote "Greece and Turkey will be relieved of their duties."
    As neither of the three states were founding members but were added later: Greece and Turkey joined in 1952. West Germany in 1955, Spain in 1982, East Germany joined West Germany and thus as Germany was a member in 1991.



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    The truth is that modern Western Europe can do nothing without the permission of its masters from Zion...Macron has shown his loyalty to Zion and he is not alone in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominator View Post
    The truth is that modern Western Europe can do nothing without the permission of its masters from Zion...Macron has shown his loyalty to Zion and he is not alone in it.
    I am sure that "the Lawspeaker" is our East Slavic brother who imagines himself a resident of the Netherlands and an adviser to NATO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veles View Post
    I am sure that "the Lawspeaker" is our East Slavic brother who imagines himself a resident of the Netherlands and an adviser to NATO.
    The funny thing is, though, that Russia would lose its most important asset to influence Western Europe: gas. We should buy it in Canada and the USA and look for alternatives as well. It would mean that the Russian economy would crash completely, worse than 1998 in fact. But since we're focusing on the Atlantic Area, that would not be our problem.



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    Here is my world map. Yes: I see the "Global Partnership" as something distinct from NATO and as something that the European partners have nothing to do with and I would suggest that only the U.S, Canada, Australia and New Zealand would be in both organisations. I also suggest that Eastern Europe is to be "Finlandised" (forced neutrality) while Russia's economy will falter (and with that the whole of society) as the West (it's main trading partner for mineral resources) looks elsewhere (the U.S, Canada, Norway, Latin America and several neutral countries) and assists Eastern European countries in gaining access through NATO or GP nations. While Russia runs into hot water, Western Europe should just sit back and weather the storm.

    As for the Global Partnership: it should be a temporal measure to keep out both Russia and China and may, in the future, include several African countries. Several regimes in Latin America (Venezuela, Honduras, Nicaragua, Cuba and Bolivia) may need to be be toppled in order to drive out pro-Chinese and pro-Russian groups. But that's America's business and Western Europe should stay out of those affairs. Another regime that needs to go is North Korea and its collapse should lead to a Korean reunification and a strict Korean neutrality.

    It would be prudent if Western countries would divest both Russia and China and re-industrialise our own societies so we can flourish at the expense of our "enemies" and would be no immorality in it as this would reflect what they have done to us for the last 20 years.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    A new Atlantic Order ?

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    You will be disappointed with Greeks, Italians and Spaniards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosniensis View Post
    You will be disappointed with Greeks, Italians and Spaniards.
    The Greeks would very likely be out. As for the Spanish and Italians ? Even NATO membership should be a temporal thing. There is a core NATO that we should keep around for later while the rest sheds after Russia withers away back into obscurity.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    The Greeks would very likely be out. As for the Spanish and Italians ? Even NATO membership should be a temporal thing. There is a core NATO that we should keep around for later while the rest sheds after Russia withers away back into obscurity.
    This is how I look it, Italians today are in deep sleep, they don't understand anything what is happening. If Germans ever invade Turkey, Greeks will moan about Greeks in Turkey, then they will complain to Italians, Italians will complain to Germany, then Spaniards will complain etc..

    You should ditch all Mediterranean states and create Germanic Atlantic Union with people you can trust, like USA + Holland + England + Germany + France + Norway etc....

    Don't stick to Meds, they have became Oriental too much.

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