Idea: A new Atlantic Order ?

[The Lawspeaker]

This is how I look it, Italians today are in deep sleep, they don't understand anything what is happening. If Germans ever invade Turkey, Greeks will moan about Greeks in Turkey, then they will complain to Italians, Italians will complain to Germany, then Spaniards will complain etc..

You should ditch all Mediterranean states and create Germanic Atlantic Union with people you can trust, like USA + Holland + England + Germany + France + Norway etc....

Don't stick to Meds, they have became Oriental too much.

Something like this, you mean ?

[Bosniensis]

Something like this, you mean ?

Yeah, you've done that? Smart.

[The Lawspeaker]

Yeah, you've done that? Smart.

I use this tool to make maps.

[The Lawspeaker]

I guess that when you think of it.. that since Eastern Europe will be forced into neutrality, most of NATO's military expenses would be in intelligence, cyberwarfare but also in the various national navies and air forces since the odds of a full-blown military conflict in Europe itself will be dramatically reduced and if the Balkans or some other place blows up, it simply won't be our problem. For countries like the Netherlands, Belgium and Denmark - most of our army could be either done away with while retaining the special forces or reformed into a rapid response force as part of a marine corps. Most of our air force could, practically, become navalised (in the case of the Netherlands, I would recreate the Naval Aviation Service and simply merge the Air Force into them) using a lot of F35Bs or the Sea Gripen. Then we should start focussing on building more destroyers and some multifunctional AAC's to replace some of our hardware. Real big land armies are something for the Americans, the Germans, the Canadians, the French and to a lesser extent the Swiss, the Brits, the Austrians and the Norwegians (because of their border with Russia).

[Bosniensis]

I use this tool to make maps.

Heh Too Late. But I'll remake this one I just updated with Paint

This is how I imagine future, does it makes sense to you?

[The Lawspeaker]

Heh Too Late. But I'll remake this one I just updated with Paint

This is how I imagine future, does it makes sense to you?

Our main interest would thus be the Northern Atlantic. We might then just as well have the Basques join NATO and have Padania become independent (as a NATO member).

[Ülev]

don't listen to the wrong advisers, make your own alliance as wide as it is possible, for geopolitics there is a need to control Greece etc.

[Bosniensis]

Our main interest would thus be the Northern Atlantic.

I also think that Mediterranean, Germanic, Asiatic etc.. peoples should stick together. (Not in the sense there should be constant wars) but in the sense of cultural preservation.

The only problem are Meds, cause they are religiously diverse (Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims) that will probably never work.

[The Lawspeaker]

I also think that Mediterranean, Germanic, Asiatic etc.. peoples should stick together. (Not in the sense there should be constant wars) but in the sense of cultural preservation.

The only problem are Meds, cause they are religiously diverse (Catholics, Orthodox and Muslims) that will probably never work.

The Med will be a good old-fashioned mess. Thankfully, it wouldn't be our problem and eventhough the French are Meds, they might probably prefer to jog with us instead. The same goes for the Basques, the Portuguese and the North Italians. Slovenia and Croatia probably too.

[The Lawspeaker]

What would also be interesting would be to set up a joint-North American/ANZAC/Germanic Europe association that influences policies in the respective countries and looks at what we can learn from each other rather than looking abroad. There are tons of things on both sides of the Atlantic that we can tweak and adopt. This includes things as small as improving service in railway classes (installing bistro cars like in the UK and actual service in first class) to big things like a First and Second Amendment.