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    Default Aromanian Haplogroups

    Latin speaking populace of Balkans.

    In 1850 Bosnia, Serbia and Croatia had about 200.000+ Latin speakers.

    Let's check their Haplogroups:

    Kruševo Aromanians (Macedonia - ex-Serbia) sample size 43:

    27.9% R1b
    20.9% I2a1b cts 10228
    11.6% R1a
    20.9% E1b V13
    11.6% J (All J)
    7% G (All G)


    Sample population Sample size R1b R1a I E1b1b E1b1a J G N T L
    Aromanians from Dukas, Albania[68] 39 2.6 2.6 17.9 17.9 0.0 48.7 10.3 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Aromanians from Andon Poçi, Albania[68] 19 36.8 0.0 42.1 15.8 0.0 5.3 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Aromanians from Kruševo, Macedonia[68] 43 27.9 11.6 20.9 20.9 0.0 11.6 7.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Aromanians from Štip, Macedonia[68] 65 23.1 21.5 16.9 18.5 0.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
    Aromanians in Romania[68] 42 23.8 2.4 19.0 7.1 0.0 33.3 0.0 — — —


    Their haplogroups also show us that R1b, I2a1, E1b were present on Balkans in 0 A.D.

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    I am not sure but I think some EV13 and r1b clades are increased from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livin View Post
    I am not sure but I think some EV13 and r1b clades are increased from them.
    But 20% I2 ... you can't find I2a1b anywhere but in Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia.... Sardinia has I2a1a, France had I2a2 I think.

    Do you think that I2 are Slavic bastards? Cause I don't.

    These people came "home" after serving in Northern Fronts .

    R1b could be German soldiers in Roman Legions.

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    Fucking liar, there were never any Aromanian speakers in Croatia, ever. And some Vlach groups have more R1a than other markers, does it make it native ?

    I hate those dirty wog Balkanites such as yourself, trying to associate our real South Slavs with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa Kesedžija View Post
    But 20% I2 ... you can't find I2a1b anywhere but in Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia.... Sardinia has I2a1a, France had I2a2 I think.

    Do you think that I2 are Slavic bastards? Cause I don't.

    These people came "home" after serving in Northern Fronts .

    R1b could be German soldiers in Roman Legions.
    You are absolutely clueless

    Vlachs don't ony have these haplogroups but also higher J2 than Slavs

    Read here:"One fourth of the Vlach people (isolated communities of Romance language speakers in the Balkans) belong to J2, considerably more than the average of Macedonia and northern Greece where they live. This, combined to the fact that they speak a language descended from Latin, suggests that they could have a greater part of Roman (or at least Italian) ancestry than other ethnic groups in the Balkans."

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...J2_Y-DNA.shtml
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Fucking liar, there were never any Aromanian speakers in Croatia, ever. And some Vlach groups have more R1a than other marker, does it make it native ?

    I hate those dirty wog Balkanites such as yourself, trying to associate our real South Slavs with you.
    Well R1a people as Greeks called them "Scythians" lived beyond Danube, some of them probably became part of those ancient communities of Serbia and Bosnia, why not?

    If R1b participated in Gaul, then why wouldn't R1a be part of ancient western balkan community?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cybernautic View Post
    You are absolutely clueless

    Vlachs don't ony have these haplogroups but also higher J2 than Slavs

    Read here:"[FONT="]One fourth of the [/FONT]Vlach people[FONT="] (isolated communities of Romance language speakers in the Balkans) [/FONT][FONT="]belong to J2, considerably more than [/FONT][FONT="]the average of Macedonia and northern Greece where they live. This, combined to the fact that they speak a language descended from Latin, suggests that [/FONT][FONT="]they could have a greater part of Roman (or at least Italian) ancestry than other ethnic groups in the Balkans.[/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]"

    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplo...J2_Y-DNA.shtml
    Take it easy m8 here is the study:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromanians


    Tab Genetic studies.

    I did not invent those numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musa Kesedžija View Post
    Well R1a people as Greeks called them "Scythians" lived beyond Danube, some of them probably became part of those ancient communities of Serbia and Bosnia, why not?

    If R1b participated in Gaul, then why wouldn't R1a be part of ancient western balkan community?
    Blablabla...only R1a that was found in ancient Balkans was Z93 in Bulgaria, which is Iranic branch and less than 1% today.
    99% of R1a in Balkans is Slavic or other medieval barbarian heritage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    Blablabla...only R1a that was found in ancient Balkans was Z93 in Bulgaria, which is Iranic branch and less than 1% today.
    99% of R1a in Balkans is Slavic or other medieval barbarian heritage.
    One guy from western Macedonia is R1a-M198>YP1051, he belong to Mijaks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mijaks

    His haplogroup is most likely pre-Slavic.

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    Цинцари Румунија (Aromanians from Romania), Цинцари Штип (Aromanians from Štip), Цинцари Крушево (Aromanians from Kruševo), Цинцари Дукаси (Aromanians from Dukas), Цинцари Андон Поци (Aromanians from Andon Poçi), Укупно (total). Total sample is 207.

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