Woman arrested for insulting Atatürk

[Bosniensis]

Atatürk was a military general. Not a linguist, not a historian, not a sociologist.
Before him there was no Turkic identity.
There was Ummah and Arab-Persian cultural domination, and convert Balkan opportunists like you.

People who were influential on Atatürk were nationalistic Turanist ideologists and scientists. Mostly Tatars from Volga and Crimea.
They were from the movement called as Jadidism. In 1910's, Turkic elements from Russia and Kazakhstan shifted to Latin.
They urged Atatürk to do the same and he did.

Now counter-question:
Why do you lack all shame and are so much interested in Turkish affairs, when Tunisians and Algerians, equally Ottoman as you and sharing equal amount of history with us as you do, have the self-esteem to know their place?

I am Bosnian Muslim with Serbian ancestry, is there anything to be ashamed of? I don't think so.

I am not interested into Turkish Affairs, I am just asking: Why do you import our Alphabet, Laws etc.. when you are Asiatic ... you should differ from us tremendously.

You should have adopted Mongolian, Japanese or some other alphabet that is closer to Turkic people.

You pose here as Turanist yet you want to join EU and support Attaturk Pan-European reforms.... that's lunacy, people here think you are all crazy in Turkey.

[Böri]

Atatürk's outfit and clothing made him a modern man with Western clothes. So what? You would have worshipped him if he had same clothing as Arabs or Bedouins. Neither is ours. But since you are Islamist, you want to see Turks wearing like Arabs...

And that's exactly why the Turanist party striked the Arabist party with Latinism and Westernism. Better the Islamist hate to be directed against westernization than against the Turkic identity. That worked perfectly.

Japanese emperor also had similar cloth as Europeans yet he was their enemy. You aren't European wannabe because you wear trousers instead of Djellaba.

And how come you 'European'? Your people are converts to Oriental culture and were therefore massacred 20 years ago, despite being 90% Yugoslav Atheist and Communists. Massacre operated by Europeans (Croats) and semi-Europeans (Orthodox Serbs). You aren't even half European as far as you don't Croatize.

[Bosniensis]

Atatürk's outfit and clothing made him a modern man with Western clothes. So what? You would have worshipped him if he had same clothing as Arabs or Bedouins. Neither is ours. But since you are Islamist, you want to see Turks wearing like Arabs...

And that's exactly why the Turanist party striked the Arabist party with Latinism and Westernism. Better the Islamist to be directed against westernization than against the Turkic identity. That worked perfectly.

Why couldn't you modernize these:

Japanese emperor also had similar cloth as Europeans yet he was their enemy.

And how come you 'European'? Your people are converts to Oriental culture and were therefore massacred 20 years ago, despite being 90% Atheistic by Europeans (Croats) and semi-Europeans (Orthodox Serbs). You aren't even half European as far as you don't Croatize.

But we were Catholics and Orthodoxes before... it's not like we are stealing their Culture or something like you do with Latin Alphabet (Clothes are One thing)... nobody cares about Clothes... but Latin Alphabet is a HUGE THING.

[Böri]

Japanese non-stop used their alphabet for 2500 years like Jews kept using Hebrew letters during their 2k years of exile. Turkic runes were discovered in 1890's. No continuation. It was lost. Anyway, at least Turks had one.

Can you point to a self-made alphabet, like Turks have, in the history of Balkan shithole? No there isn't.

You start being annoying. And Turks won't lose more time with you.

Look there are Tunisians and Algerians on TA. And look how they know their place.

And Don't forget that they are as Ottoman as you and simply share similar amount of history with us as you do.
Plus they have the flag which you haven't....

Now, get lost...

[Bosniensis]

Japanese non-stop used their alphabet for 2500 years like Jews kept using Hebrew letters during their 2k years of exile. Turkic runes were discovered in 1890's. No continuation. It was lost. Anyway, at least Turks had one.

Can you point to a self-made alphabet, like Turks have, in the history of Balkan shithole? No there isn't.

You start being annoying. And Turks won't lose more time with you.

Look there are Tunisians and Algerians on TA. And look how they know their place.

And Don't forget that they are as Ottoman as you and simply share similar amount of history with us as you do.
Plus they have the flag which you haven't....

Now, get lost...

Look man, I am helping you. We have alphabet, maybe one of the oldest on Earth. Turkic is old as well which is why I protested.

If I was a Turk, I would have fought against anything European.

You need to protect your Asiatic identity from Greco-Roman, Slavic influence.

[Petros Houhoulis]

Japanese non-stop used their alphabet for 2500 years like Jews kept using Hebrew letters during their 2k years of exile. Turkic runes were discovered in 1890's. No continuation. It was lost. Anyway, at least Turks had one.

Can you point to a self-made alphabet, like Turks have, in the history of Balkan shithole? No there isn't.

The oldest in the world, you canine! Most of them are in Serbia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vin%C4%8Da_symbols

The Vinča symbols, sometimes called the Danube script, Vinča signs, Vinča script, Vinča–Turdaș script, Old European script, etc., are a set of symbols found on Neolithic era (6th to 5th millennia BC) artifacts from the Vinča culture of Central Europe and Southeastern Europe.^[1]

In 1875, archaeological excavations led by the Hungarian archeologist Zsófia Torma (1840–1899) at Tordos (today Turdaș, Romania) unearthed a cache of objects inscribed with previously unknown symbols. In 1908, a similar cache was found during excavations conducted by Serbian archaeologist Miloje Vasić (1869–1956) in Vinča, a suburb of Belgrade (Serbia), some 245 km from Turdaș. Later, more such fragments were found in Banjica, another part of Belgrade. Since 1875, over one hundred and fifty Vinča sites have been identified in Serbia alone, but many, including Vinča itself, have not been fully excavated.^[2] Thus, the culture of the whole area is called the Vinča culture, and the symbols are often called^{[citation needed]} the Vinča–Turdaș script.
The discovery of the Tărtăria tablets in Romania by a team led by Nicolae Vlassa in 1961 reignited the debate. Vlassa believed the inscriptions to be pictograms and other items found at the same place were subsequently carbon-dated to before 4000 BC (the tablets themselves cannot be dated by physical or chemical methods^[3]), thirteen hundred years earlier than the date he expected, and earlier even than the writing systems of the Sumerians and Minoans. Although the authenticity of these tablets is disputed^[4] to date, more than a thousand fragments with similar inscriptions have been found^{[citation needed]} on various archaeological sites throughout south-eastern Europe, notably in Greece (Dispilio Tablet), Bulgaria, Romania, eastern Hungary, Moldova, and southern Ukraine^{[citation needed]}.
Most of the inscriptions are on pottery, with the remainder appearing on ceramic spindle whorls, figurines, and a small collection of other objects. Over 85% of the inscriptions consist of a single symbol. The symbols themselves consist of a variety of abstract and representative pictograms, including zoomorphic (animal-like) representations, combs or brush patterns and abstract symbols such as swastikas, crosses and chevrons. Other objects include groups of symbols, of which some are arranged in no particularly obvious pattern, with the result that neither the order nor the direction of the signs in these groups is readily determinable. The usage of symbols varies significantly between objects: symbols that appear by themselves tend almost exclusively to appear on pots, while symbols that are grouped with other symbols tend to appear on whorls.

Fragment of a clay vessel with an "M"-looking incision.

The importance of these findings lies in the fact that the bulk of the Vinča symbols were created in the period between 4500 and 4000 BC, with the ones on the Tărtăria clay tablets even dating back to around 5300 BC.^[5] This means that the Vinča finds predate the proto-Sumerian pictographic script from Uruk (modern Iraq), which is usually considered to be the oldest known script, by more than a thousand years. Analyses of the symbols showed that they have little similarity with Near Eastern writing, leading to the view that these symbols and the Sumerian script probably arose independently. Although a large number of symbols are known, most artifacts contain so few symbols that they are very unlikely to represent a complete text. Possibly the only exception is the Sitovo inscription in Bulgaria, the dating of which is disputed; regardless, even that inscription has only around 50 symbols. It is unknown which language used the symbols, or indeed whether they stand for a language at all.

It seems that the European scripts bear more resemblance to these symbols rather than the Phoenician alphabet, and most probably the Europeans copied the concept of an alphabet by the Phoenicians rather than the symbols themselves - assuming that the Vinca script was not an alphabet, because it has not been deciphered yet, and it shall never be deciphered because the original non-IndoEuropean languages of the Balkans have been completely wiped out from the face of the earth.

You start being annoying. And Turks won't lose more time with you.

Look there are Tunisians and Algerians on TA. And look how they know their place.

And Don't forget that they are as Ottoman as you and simply share similar amount of history with us as you do.
Plus they have the flag which you haven't....

Now, get lost...

Bori, you hate Ottomans nowadays, don't you?