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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    No way only 3% is Gypsy. Much closer to 10% than to 3%
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani...ani_population

    Soros is Jew, yes. So it is the people that fill WE with immigrants and yet you insulted West Europeans, so deal with your Jew countryman Soros.
    Thanks to the Jews and the Germans, they actually had bread on the table. They like to forget that one though. In fact: not much has changed since, because we Westerners are still paying for their lunch.

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    lol

    Anyway, I think many people in ''Eastern Europe'' agree EU should cease to exist. As soon as possible, if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jana View Post
    lol

    Anyway, I think many people in ''Eastern Europe'' agree EU should cease to exist. As soon as possible, if you ask me.
    God, yes. It's like the Austro-Hungarian Empire without Austria's fine arts and Austria's functioning bureaucracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    But as I said to someone else: who built these cities ? Merchants or Kings ?
    Can you elaborate, I'm not sure what exactly do you mean?

    Sandomir existed as an urban centre already in 1000 AD, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    God, yes. It's like the Austro-Hungarian Empire without Austria's fine arts and Austria's functioning bureaucracy.
    But don't forget it's the Austrian Habsburg taxes and pandering to the oversized landowning nobility (as opposed to the urbanizing middle classes) that led to the relative underdevelopment in the region. Only the Ottomans were behind Austria-Hungary in terms of industrialization and urbanization. Prussia (despite of its ruling Junker class), was more pro-capitalist and pro-industrialization (which is in my opinion why they won the Austro-Prussian wars), but still behind the Netherlands and of course behind Britain and the US. Arguably even Russia was more dynamic in industrialization after the Stolypin reforms in late 19th century. Also, Habsurgs are often blamed for breaking up the Spanish Empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    That's what the Czechs like to claim today. The reality was that he was raised and educated in France. The rest is just Czech mythmaking - adding to my earlier point. The reality is that they grew rich under Western-educated monarchs and Austro-Hungarian Emperors with a strong German and Jewish industrial and middle class doing the work for them and when they got tired of giving them due respect, they just killed them and took whatever they had and then, of course, tried to re-write history.
    lol there are historical proves - Luxembourgs didn't care about Czechlands at all, you hater. They only looted there, nothing more. The country at that time was in ruins. It was Eliška Přemyslovna who saved the country. Her son was taken from her and wasn't even able to speak Czech, his father did everything to separate him from Czechlands, he was so scared of her mother and him. But the blood was stronger.
    If you think that all Jews and Germans were rich, wtf. There is something that is called "poor Sudetenlands" - these people were poor as mouses from churches. The same goes with Jews.



    Czechs are Central Europeans, they are not people who stayed frozen on the level of deer hunters in Belarus, Ukraine or Poland. They moved into the Central Europe, they assimilated Celtic and Germanic tribes and very soon created the own "empire"... then they invited some poor Germanic people to their lands because there were huge territories where nobody lived. And again - they mixed with them. As it goes for politics, the history of Czechlands is history of Central Europe - international European noble families ruled Europe. Therefore Czechs were almost germanized. But it didn't happen because some Czech intellectuals got an romantic idea to give a new breath to Czechs and they succeed. Do you know how Germans called them "crazy Germans" - they didn't even want to admit those intellectuals were Czechs. You are on their level.

    Our culture is strongly influenced by Austrians, yes. It is who we are. We are Central Europeans, genetically, culturally, historically. An idiot from the internet can't take from us who we are. Sorry we are not deer hunters who lived +1000000000000000000000000000000 years ago.

    Btw. Czechs are peaceful people, if they were Germans, all Sudeten Germans were send into internments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    But certainly not than Prussian Poland.
    Much of the industry in Prussian Poland was founded by Poles such as Hipolit Cegielski:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipolit_Cegielski

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Ceg...93_Pozna%C5%84

    Still the region was mostly known as an agricultural powerhouse, not industrial.

    Industry was concentrated in Upper Silesia and nearby Dąbrowa Basin of Congress Poland:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C4%85browa_Basin

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_...ustrial_Region

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    No way only 3% is Gypsy. Much closer to 10% than to 3%
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani...ani_population

    Soros is Jew, yes. So it is the people that fill WE with immigrants and yet you insulted West Europeans, so deal with your Jew countryman Soros.
    Wikipedia as scientific source? D Nope latino, gypsies are just 3% (official 2018 source):
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...ry-population/

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    So true what Lawspeaker said, any contribution in architecture, culture, art etc in Eastern Europe was brought by Western European empires that colonized such countries. Now that these empires no longer exist, those momuments persist yet are wrongfully claimed by another ethnicity. Look at Prague for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agyullámtörő View Post
    Real Europe = East Eutope, you western cucks are migration supporters, liberals, marxists you are a traitors of Europe. You westernes brought millions of blacks, arabs, asians into Europe, shame on you cuck.
    That’s pathetic from your part. Plus you shouldn’t insult asians as your ancestors were asian migrants.

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