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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    Look you would be surprised both WE and EE suffers from the same issues:
    - population aging,
    - growth of education,
    - growth of economy in a longer horizon.

    The result: lack of workforce;
    What can local producers/governments do:
    - increasing the retirement age,
    - reducing working time,
    - reduction of production (the economic growth will slow down),
    - relocation of production elsewhere (now WEs can still relocate it to some EE's countries, but number of workers is limited and it is unsustainable in the longer term - (population aging); typically to countries like India, China, Turkey, etc. - especially India, China are extremely dangerous economic competitors for Europe,
    - to bring immigrants to the country that has the above mentioned issue.
    What did they do was all: they raised the retirement age to 66 (and set to be 71 in 2050), they actually raised working hours, they relocated jobs (to the East - just so they could sack their expensive unionised Dutch staff) and bring in more migrants. In all cases, foreigners win, Dutch lose.

    In fact: most of Europe's retirement programs seem to be falling apart and with our average coverage of over 105%, the EU now wants to stick its greedy hands in our coffers once more. So understanding that one, you probably begin to see why there is so little enthusiasm in Western Europe to continue with this whole project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Not my fault that you are very naive and believe stats that say that prostitution in Spain or Germany is higher than in USA. Than in USA, for God sake!!


    Calling you Eastern Europe (what you are) is an insult?


    You Easterners made West Europe a brothel with your mafias and women
    It is just you Cristiano viejo a person who is ashamed of skin color of own people who tries to insult people from ex-communist countries by labeling "Eastern European".

    Everytime when I see a person from SE try to humiliate people from ex-com-countries I have to think of this:
    https://www.rt.com/news/349364-ramsa...candal-greece/
    Filthy... Filthy... Filthy... interesting.

    Prostitution has a long tradition in your country; the world was globalized so you started to abuse victims... you earn money from them, filthy Spanish Southern European men fuck them... yes, you are better people.

    There is nothing like we Easterners - nothing like we Westerners. You have nothing to do with Germany or Norway. You have more in common with South-Eastern countries than with Norway. Yes, especially some people from some South East countries are into organized crime, they were inspirited by their South Western brothers. Mafia forever.
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    Even in Cervantes' masterpiece, Don Quixote, there are prostitutes (who Don Quixote mistakes princesses).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    It is just you Cristiano viejo a person who is ashamed of skin color of own people who tries to insult people from ex-communist countries by labeling "Eastern European".

    Everytime when I see a person from SE try to humiliate people from ex-com-countries I have to think of this:
    https://www.rt.com/news/349364-ramsa...candal-greece/
    Filthy... Filthy... Filthy... interesting.

    Prostitution has a long tradition in your country; the world was globalized so you started to abuse victims... you earn money from them, filthy Spanish Southern European men fuck them... yes, you are better people.

    There is nothing like we Easterners - nothing like we Westerners. You have nothing to do with Germany or Norway. You have more in common with South-Eastern countries than with Norway. Yes, especially some people from some South East countries are into organized crime, they were inspirited by their South Western brothers. Mafia forever.
    Cool story. No, really. Cool story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    Even in Cervantes' masterpiece, Don Quixote, there are prostitutes (who Don Quixote mistakes princesses).
    Probably from Eastern Europe
    Espaa para los espaoles! Spain for Spaniards!

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    Answering the original questions of the thread: Yugoslavia self-eroded. It started by the combination of rapid industrialization of cities where newly emerged citizen class (mostly) didn't integrate well, as well as ideological differences prevailing among top politicians in each republic. The later served for boosting irrational nationalism, by revoking some mythological rights of each nation ("why we war"), which caused friction and antisymmetry. That was the start of collapse. The war was largely due to undefined ethnic borders. The longevity of war was because army became joke in the 1980's, so by early 1990's it was poorly organized. All this was repulsive to many people that fled elsewhere. Since its some of the smartest people who left the ex-Yugoslav countries are in contiunual decline. However modern values are also destroying the countries. To some they were forced. That's why some of us really hate those modern western values.

    As for ex-Warsaw pact countries I can't tell.

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