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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Funny, taking account 10% of Hungarian population is Gypsy.


    Oh my God, Eastern Europeans calling us marxists...


    Hungarian Soros did
    Soros is jew not hungarian:

    "Soros was born in Budapest in the Kingdom of Hungary to a well-to-do non-observant Jewish family, who, like many upper-middle class Hungarian Jews at the time, were uncomfortable with their roots. "
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    Only 3% of hungarian population is Gypsie:
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...ry-population/

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    Still. The Hungarian Jews were more integrated with Hungarian culture than many migrants here will ever be. So he must have taken up a good dose of dismantling societies in the old AH-tradition. Let us not forget that the AH-Empire was a veritable European Union in itself.
    Which immigrant groups do you think can be integrated into your country? And which not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    Which immigrant groups do you think can be integrated into your country? And which not?
    I think the Indo-Dutch did a good job but they have Dutch blood. As for the others ? I think numbers are important and the results don't look promising. I hate to say it but none and all at the same time. None as in those large groups can never be integrated. All is in, if the numbers were to be very low, then they would long since have been assimilated.



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    I think that eastern Europe is on a transitional phase with some nations going on a faster pace than others. The main problem I can think of is the level of corruption by the political elites and the younger generations who were raised by parents who grew up in a completely different system before the fall of Communism in Europe, leading to a general suspicion of power and unpredictability.
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    You are just extremely rigid in your mind. Everything is how it used to be, oh jesus.




    Try to build economies from nothing. The 20's century was extremely important for economy, new technologies were discovered, large supra-national companies were founded. EE were not allowed to be part of it. In 1990 - post communistic countries didn't have technologies, companies, what more educated people in marketing, management, those people didn't know how to build a modern business...

    Honestly I think that in few years most EE countries will skip all SE countries as it goes for GDP. Now it is again only about culture, how hard working people are, etc. So I think that it is quite obvious what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    I think that eastern Europe is on a transitional phase with some nations going on a faster pace than others. The main problem I can think of is the level of corruption by the political elites and the younger generations who were raised by parents who grew up in a completely different system before the fall of Communism in Europe, leading to a general suspicion of power and unpredictability.
    I think the problem is probably older than that. Most of these countries don't have a real democratic history to begin with. No history of popular particular or strength. They do have one of popular servitude. Apart from Poland, no Eastern country was touched by the growing pains of European civilization: they weren't touched by the Renaissance, the Reformation or the Enlightenment The Industrial Revolution too, for them, came from abroad and mostly came only AFTER the communists had taken over.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I think the Indo-Dutch did a good job but they have Dutch blood. As for the others ? I think numbers are important and the results don't look promising. I hate to say it but none and all at the same time. None as in those large groups can never be integrated. All is in, if the numbers were to be very low, then they would long since have been assimilated.
    Netherland is only 79% ethnic dutch others are africans, blacks, indonesians. According to birth rate statistics white dutch became minority 40-50 years later.
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...ds-population/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agyullámtörő View Post
    Netherland is only 79% ethnic dutch others are africans, blacks, indonesians. According to birth rate statistics white dutch became minority 40-50 years later.
    http://worldpopulationreview.com/cou...ds-population/
    Again.. no interesting answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    I think that eastern Europe is on a transitional phase with some nations going on a faster pace than others. The main problem I can think of is the level of corruption by the political elites and the younger generations who were raised by parents who grew up in a completely different system before the fall of Communism in Europe, leading to a general suspicion of power and unpredictability.
    Isn't corruption a big issue in most SE countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnolia View Post
    You are just extremely rigid in your mind. Everything is how it used to be, oh jesus.




    Try to build economies from nothing. The 20's century was extremely important for economy, new technologies were discovered, large supra-national companies were founded. EE were not allowed to be part of it. In 1990 - post communistic countries didn't have technologies, companies, what more educated people in marketing, management, those people didn't know how to build a modern business...

    Honestly I think that in few years most EE countries will skip all SE countries as it goes for GDP. Now it is again only about culture, how hard working people are, etc. So I think that it is quite obvious what will happen.
    Again: the Easterners didn't start with nothing. Not in the case of Czechoslavia where Bohemia (particularly the Sudetenland) had been industrialised by the Austrians since the 19th century. Poland inherited many of the Austrian and German industries whereas nothing had changed in the once-Russian East. They merely took over the old industry. In the case of the rest: not much was going on. In fact the pattern hasn't changed: much of Polish and Czech industry is concentrated in the West and so is much of their population. Once a pattern is laid out, it tends to remain the same.



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