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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornoz View Post
    Well..
    It is not a secret that majority of our ancestors were natives of these lands.
    Other than that this reply of yours is irrevelant to your claims and my reply. Don't mislead the topic.
    Cossaks are now very true Caucasians is we ask them
    though all we know when they came and how they came and whose dances they are dancing now
    so I dont like such patriotism
    the truth is one
    its ancient culture of peoples who lived there since ancient times

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    I dont say Zorba and Pherkhuli have something in common
    but I say they are too different from each other
    while Pontic Greeks' and Lazes' Khoroni is very similar
    so it is not from their Hellados ancestors or proto Kartveloid ancestors but something created together living in one region for thousand of years
    I understand you are Turkish and want to make Lazo-Greek culture also common with Black Sea Turks but no man
    I know the region very well because of Lazes and you are like Cossaks in Circassia
    you only genocided the local Greeks and copypasted their culture
    its true Hellado-Colchian mix world
    Don't mistake me with a chuvanist nationalist such as yourself. The only thing that I care about nations is their culture. I don't care whatever you call yourself. You can call yourself god if you want. I only care about your culture and try to find the beautiful parts of it.

    You are the one who associate your culture with ''Lazo-Greek'' ( ) btw, my culture is same with their's already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornoz View Post
    Don't mistake me with a chuvanist nationalist such as yourself. The only thing that I care about nations is their culture. I don't care whatever you call yourself. You can call yourself god if you want. I only care about your culture and try to find the beautiful parts of it.

    You are the one who associate your culture with ''Lazo-Greek'' ( ) btw, my culture is same with their's already
    cultural copypasting

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    Quote Originally Posted by klarji View Post
    cultural copypasting
    This doesn't change the reality.
    I didn't steal that culture I've borned into it and I love my culture. There is nothing that I can do about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bornoz View Post
    This doesn't change the reality.
    I didn't steal that culture I've borned into it and I love my culture. There is nothing that I can do about it.
    Sorry man but Oghuz Turks your grandfathers conquered these regions performed genocide of Pontic Greek and settled there themselves

    There is a big difference between Ellinian culture and Turkic cultures to see whose dances and music are they
    Its ancient culture man
    Ancient culture of Hellados + Colchian tribes
    Real Turkish dances and music are somewhere in middle Anatolia
    Turks' folklore is quite different
    Even I say it is not Laz culture
    Because its very much influenced by Greek and other ancient cultures of the region but it is not original Laz culture but mix. Turks came very late and they brought Asiatic notes.
    Pontic Greeks dance Horoni like true Hellas and Turks like more Asian people
    We Georgians try to clean how its possible Laz folklore from Greek mix and late Turkish influence
    But we can not restore of course their folk of pre Greek period - 7-6 cen. BC and we make it only like our folk thinking we are making it original

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    American scientist Michael E. Meeker about the Black Sea Turks and cultural substratum of Laz people in Caucasian culture and national psychology of modern Pontic Greeks and then Black Sea Turks <3







    Michael E. Meeker: "The Black Sea Turks: Some Aspects of Their Ethnic and Cultural Background"
    International Journal of Middle East Studies Vol. 2, No. 4 (Oct., 1971), pp. 318-345)

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    They are mostly good people quite on their own. Yet linking them with Georgians would be maybe mistaken.
    Laz might come from Lezgins. NE Caucasus Pagan people "Arabized" by Ottomans somehow. Laz weren't Byzantine Orthodox such as the Georgians being the oldest Cristian nation in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heaven View Post
    They are mostly good people quite on their own. Yet linking them with Georgians would be maybe mistaken.
    Laz might come from Lezgins. NE Caucasus Pagan people "Arabized" by Ottomans somehow. Laz weren't Byzantine Orthodox such as the Georgians being the oldest Cristian nation in the world.
    The Lazs were converted to Christianity in the 5th century, by the first Christian king Gubazes I of Lazica, that declared Christianity as a state religion of Lazica.

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    Good. You can have them. Not so relevant after all.

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    Good thread. To hell with Turanization/Mongolization and duddy ponto-cromagnids.



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