Urheimat and migrations of turkic people(against both turanist and steppist theory)

[Yaglakar]

there is no such thing as "old Turkish". Now go and play in the sand.

[Ryuk]

there is no such thing as "old Turkish". Now go and play in the sand.

I'm sorry, but did you throw that comment at me?I never used the old Turkish phrase anywhere. The places that wrote the old Turkish do not belong to me,but from nişanyan dictionary and Old turkish meant to be there not proto turkic,it is common oghuz.If you gave me this comment,you know, it's a very rude response.Please write your critics in a civilized manner.

[Thanas Django]

What I don't get is the usage of German words when talking about Turkic origins and history.

[Ryuk]

Bump,El bump,la bumpe,撞

[Proto-Shaman]

This forum is too stupid for you, better try another one. Seriously, you will only find mentally raped (Turkish) Indo-Europeanists in this forum.

[mutabor]

I checked which northern Asian languages sound as guttural and harsh as Kazakh and came to a conclusion that harshness comes from paleo-Siberian languages ( Ket, Chukchi). So it seems that proto-Turkic is a hybrid of paleo-Siberian and Mongolic languages. Mongolian sounds different from Turkic but still there are similar intonations.

Ket people were predominantly haplogroup Q. Paleo-Siberians mixed with Mongolic/Tungusic people ( haplogroups C and N).



Chukchi



Inuit language from Eastern Canada

[Ryuk]

proto Bulgaro turkic language did not contain laryngeal,uvular or harsh sounds,instead it contains dental, palatal,velar and labial consonants.

there are significant differences between Turkic languages and paleo Siberian languages.

1-)Turkic languages have rich vovels,but there is not much in PS languages.

2-)Turkic languages have not as consonants as PS languages.

3-)while Turkish languages are nominativ languages,PS languages are more ergative.

4-)Turkic languages are agglutinativ,PS languages are polysentetic


Turkic consonants: labial(p,b,m) dental(t,d,s,n,l,r),palatal(č,S,s,ñ,N,R,L),velar(k ,g,q,G)

Turkic vovels:a,aa,e,ee,i,ii,ï,ïï,o,oo,ö,öö,u,uu,ü,üü,é,é é,perhaps ä,ää

[Ryuk]

Al bumpiye,bumpinsky,bùmpí,argdyhtgf???

[Yaglakar]

Hsiung-Nu aka Xiongnu/Hunnu - original homeland of the proto-Turkic speaking peoples, in the vicinity of Ordos

[Ryuk]

I told you before.Proto Bulgaro-Turkic language does not contain terms related to the desert.Plant,animal and geography terms do not fit in the Ordos region or anywhere in Mongolia.

Nevertless,İt is in over your head,there's nothing else I can tell you.