Urheimat and migrations of turkic people(against both turanist and steppist theory)

**~~Ryuk~~** · 12-16-2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by Yaglakar

Anna Dybo is a prominent scholar. Her work is acknowledged and valued worldwide. The article that OP cites has not even been published, "merdiven" work. Chinese and Indo-European loanwords in proto-Turkic and hence Bulgaric clearly lay out the map for us Gansu-Ordos region (close to Mongolic peoples) with consequent assimilation of Indo-European Tagar, Afanasievo and other cultures.

Anna Dybo an altaist and nostraticist,and she did very mistake in her papers,also she is not poular in world wide,mostly popular in Russian altaist(Stratostin etc) community.

Also please read those.

https://www.academia.edu/6345901/The...ic_controversy

http://aluarium.net/forum/thread-383.html

**mutabor** · 01-26-2019, 11:24 PM

LOL.

Russian DNA enthusiast Anatoly Klyosov writes that R1b people were originally speaking proto-Turkic language. Though I have to admit there are common sounds ( especially Umlaut vowel system) in Germanic, French languages and Turkic. I think there was partial influence of R1b people on proto-Turkic language.

As I've written before IMHO proto-Turkic language was formed by haplogroup Q ( harsh guttural pronunciation of Ket, Chukchi, Eskimo peoples with dominance of guttural explosive K sound), haplogroups C ( Q and C are even present in Native Americans), possibly by haplogroup N. The missing link was Umlaut vowel system which is very characteristic of Turkic language. I only found this system in Germanic and French languages ( most likely brought by R1b speakers).

http://www.turkicworld.org/turkic/60...enealogyEn.htm

**mutabor** · 01-27-2019, 12:16 AM

Presumable R1b migration map

Bashkirs are 47% R1b.

R1b people could pass Umlaut vowel system to proto-Turkic language. Icelandic ( Germanic) and Welsh ( Celtic) languages retained lateral LL sound which is common in Mongolic, Native American, Chukchi and Khanty languages. Germanic languages have long vowels which is common in Mongolic and Native American languages.