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    Hello, so I upload my results on gedmatch and I have used mostly the eurogenes calculators. I would like some help to unerstand better the results and especially the combination of the populations. For example I found strange the fact that in many calculators I have some jewish results despite I do not know anything about a jewish ancestor. How can I interpret that?

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Admix Results (sorted):

    #PopulationPercent1East_Med24.43
    2Atlantic17.62
    3West_Med14.48
    4West_Asian14.37
    5Baltic10.69
    6North_Sea7.72
    7Eastern_Euro6.44
    8Red_Sea2.73

    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek @ 4.254550
    2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.964528
    3 Central_Greek @ 8.359681
    4 West_Sicilian @ 9.488018
    5 East_Sicilian @ 9.635542
    6 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.008021
    7 Ashkenazi @ 10.447113
    8 South_Italian @ 11.152130
    9 Bulgarian @ 12.026366
    10 Tuscan @ 12.048338
    11 Romanian @ 15.198464
    12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.063034
    13 Italian_Jewish @ 16.312510
    14 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.314535
    15 North_Italian @ 18.024378
    16 Serbian @ 19.417986
    17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.598433
    18 Turkish @ 22.768404
    19 Cyprian @ 23.049229
    20 Libyan_Jewish @ 23.685194

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Greek @ 4.254550

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
    1 Greek + Greek + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210
    2 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.896968
    3 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.925893
    4 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.965997
    5 Greek + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.037837
    6 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Greek @ 4.053055
    7 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.130714
    8 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 4.148146
    9 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.154962
    10 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.209282
    11 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.229155
    12 Greek + Greek + Greek + West_Sicilian @ 4.248516
    13 Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.254550
    14 Greek + Greek + Romanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.263758
    15 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.292868
    16 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.294418
    17 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.297198
    18 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.315464
    19 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.316400
    20 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.317794

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    Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xripkan View Post
    Hello, so I upload my results on gedmatch and I have used mostly the eurogenes calculators. I would like some help to unerstand better the results and especially the combination of the populations. For example I found strange the fact that in many calculators I have some jewish results despite I do not know anything about a jewish ancestor. How can I interpret that?

    Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 4-Ancestors Oracle


    Admix Results (sorted):

    #PopulationPercent1East_Med24.43
    2Atlantic17.62
    3West_Med14.48
    4West_Asian14.37
    5Baltic10.69
    6North_Sea7.72
    7Eastern_Euro6.44
    8Red_Sea2.73

    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek @ 4.254550
    2 Italian_Abruzzo @ 7.964528
    3 Central_Greek @ 8.359681
    4 West_Sicilian @ 9.488018
    5 East_Sicilian @ 9.635542
    6 Greek_Thessaly @ 10.008021
    7 Ashkenazi @ 10.447113
    8 South_Italian @ 11.152130
    9 Bulgarian @ 12.026366
    10 Tuscan @ 12.048338
    11 Romanian @ 15.198464
    12 Sephardic_Jewish @ 16.063034
    13 Italian_Jewish @ 16.312510
    14 Algerian_Jewish @ 17.314535
    15 North_Italian @ 18.024378
    16 Serbian @ 19.417986
    17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 20.598433
    18 Turkish @ 22.768404
    19 Cyprian @ 23.049229
    20 Libyan_Jewish @ 23.685194

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Greek @ 4.254550

    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++
    1 Greek + Greek + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.851210
    2 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.896968
    3 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.925893
    4 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.965997
    5 Greek + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.037837
    6 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Greek @ 4.053055
    7 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.130714
    8 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Southwest_French @ 4.148146
    9 Assyrian + Bulgarian + Greek + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.154962
    10 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Southwest_French @ 4.209282
    11 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.229155
    12 Greek + Greek + Greek + West_Sicilian @ 4.248516
    13 Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.254550
    14 Greek + Greek + Romanian + Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.263758
    15 Central_Greek + Greek + Greek + Greek @ 4.292868
    16 Austrian + Cyprian + Greek + Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.294418
    17 Bulgarian + Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.297198
    18 Bulgarian + Greek + Greek + South_Italian @ 4.315464
    19 Assyrian + Greek + Greek + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.316400
    20 Bulgarian + Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Spanish_Aragon @ 4.317794
    I assume you are from the Peleponnese?

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    Yes I am 3/4 from Peloponnese and 1/4 from Thessaly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.
    Actually I have recently received my DNA results from 23andme and I had 2% percent arabian and North African DNA . It was all at X chromosome and it remained in every confidence level. According to my gedmatch I have big distance from every other population from this region. That is why I think I may have some Jewish ancestry but I don't know if gedmatch works in that way. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xripkan View Post
    Yes I am 3/4 from Peloponnese and 1/4 from Thessaly.
    Ya your results are very typical for that region. Non-Greek results are just telling you which populations are genetically close to your results, and not a sign of any ancestry from those regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Jews (especially Ashkenazi Jews) are genetically similar to Greeks and South Italians due to having similar components. This doesn't mean that you have ancestry from them.
    Some Greeks are too Slavic to be similar to Ashkenazim and southern Italians.

    This particular result seems somewhat shifted toward Spain though (high Atlantic).

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    Could you post dodecad k12b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcelow View Post
    Could you post dodecad k12b?
    These are my dodecad k12b results

    Dodecad K12b 4-Ancestors Oracle


    The GEDmatch version of Oracle may give slightly different results from Dienekes version. The GEDmatch version uses FST weighting in its calculations.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 33.22
    2 Atlantic_Med 27.55
    3 North_European 22.69
    4 Southwest_Asian 7.50
    5 Gedrosia 4.92
    6 Northwest_African 2.37
    7 South_Asian 1.75


    Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek_Dodecad @ 6.264077
    2 O_Italian_Dodecad @ 8.100996
    3 C_Italian_Dodecad @ 9.459302
    4 Tuscan_HGDP @ 11.725826
    5 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 12.615416
    6 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 12.737267
    7 TSI30_Metspalu @ 12.778362
    8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 12.907060
    9 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 13.341467
    10 Bulgarian_Dodecad @ 13.432477
    11 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev @ 13.603907
    12 Romanians_Behar @ 14.875485
    13 N_Italian_Dodecad @ 17.436171
    14 North_Italian_HGDP @ 19.683111
    15 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.822296
    16 Morocco_Jews_Behar @ 21.995888
    17 Turkish_Dodecad @ 25.601059
    18 Cypriots_Behar @ 27.360167
    19 Turks_Behar @ 28.249435
    20 Baleares_1000Genomes @ 29.210794

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Romanians_Behar +50% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Romanians_Behar +25% Sicilian_Dodecad +25% Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanian_Dodecad + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.372381
    2 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.406085
    3 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar @ 2.443154
    4 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Lithuanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.495397
    5 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.525553
    6 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.544811
    7 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.554656
    8 Romanians_Behar + Romanians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.581297
    9 Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.607164
    10 Armenians_Behar + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes + Romanians_Behar @ 2.607239
    11 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.610913
    12 Romanians_Behar + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.613446
    13 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Greek_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad @ 2.614744
    14 Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.622501
    15 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP @ 2.632030
    16 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.634680
    17 Adygei_HGDP + Sardinian_HGDP + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.635982
    18 Georgians_Behar + Lithuanians_Behar + Morocco_Jews_Behar + Sardinian_HGDP @ 2.636101
    19 Armenian_Dodecad + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Bulgarians_Yunusbayev + Murcia_1000Genomes @ 2.636898
    20 Bulgarian_Dodecad + Bulgarian_Dodecad + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Sicilian_Dodecad @ 2.637273

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    Actually this is my gedmatch kit number AP6562337

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