Muslims from Novi Pazar

[Pribislav]

Though most look exotic, there are still a couple here and there that would have no problem passing in Central Europe (whether as typical or atypical), obviously a minority. There are also some (likely of Slavic ancestry) that could pass in Ukraine like Sead Sehovic, Fahrudin Malic, etc. But yeah, most look Albanian and Montenegrin by far.

Although the link says ME and Caucasian people came to Sanjak, I think they would have been a drop in the water. The migration from Anatolia may have been somewhat significant. Was there any significant migration from Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia or are they all either of Montenegrin Serb/Albanian (and Turkish) descent?

By the way, there was a Muslim user from Sanjak here last year (he only stayed for a couple of days) that didn't identify with Bosniaks, he looked quite Slavic ironically (though I think he was part German) and just considered himself Sandžaklija. I wonder how common it is for Sanjak Muslims to just consider themselves "ethnic Sandžaklija" (as opposed to "Bosniak"), probably a tiny minority but still interesting if they started developing a separate identity or this was just a one off case.

Do you know lqa3 from Anthroscape?
He is Sanžaklija from Novi Pazar, and he said than Sanžaklis are mix of Albanians and Montenegrins, and not Bosniaks.
He looks Anatolian/Middle Eastern, I'II put his photo if I find. Jana know how he looks.

[Mingle]

Do you know user lqa3 wrom Anthroscape?
He is Sanžaklija from Novi Pazar, and he said than Sanžaklis are mix of Albanians and Montenegrins, and not Bosniaks.
He looks Anatiolian/Middle Eastern, I'II put his photo if I find. Jana know how he looks.

Yes. Didn't he say he was from Montenegro? He looks like a stereotypical Algerian/North African. Did he identify as ethnic Bosniak?

[Ayetooey]

Absolutely not like Albanians, way too eastern for us.

Look up any genetic study, over 70 percent are Albanian by y DNA, and over 2 third can actually trace roots directly back to Albanian clans from Malësia through oral history. Most of the regular educated Albanian posters here, Kelmandasi for example, would completely disagree with you; these people are Albanians who speak a slavic tongue, SOME are Turkish or Mena admixed, hence why they appear more eastern. No point in down-voting me when I'm speaking facts.

[Hulu]

Look up any genetic study, over 70 percent are Albanian by y DNA, and over 2 third can actually trace roots directly back to Albanian clans from Malësia through oral history. Most of the regular educated Albanian posters here, Kelmandasi for example, would completely disagree with you. No point in down-voting me when I'm speaking facts.

Maybe not the ones in the pics Idk. But even if that's true, that 30% makes a difference because it's from a really different stock such as serbs.

[Ayetooey]

Maybe not the ones in the pics Idk. But even if that's true, that 30% makes a difference because it's from a really different stock such as serbs.

I don't deny they are darker than Albanians, they are admixed with Turks, and other MENA + caucus peoples that the Ottomans shipped in; but they are majority Albanian origin from Malësia as shown by Y dna + oral history and there are some who are not admixed. These people have 0 to do with Bosnia, they can't trace any roots back to Bosnia.

[Hulu]

I don't deny they are darker than Albanians, they are admixed with Turks, and other MENA + caucus peoples that the Ottomans shipped in; but they are majority Albanian origin from Malësia as shown by Y dna + oral history and there are some who are not admixed. These people have 0 to do with Bosnia, they can't trace any roots back to Bosnia.

It's not just darker, we have plenty of dark types, it's features that are different

[Tauromachos]

Different to the Serbs from Banja Luca in his other thread

Thats for sure

[Pribislav]

Look up any genetic study, over 70 percent are Albanian by y DNA, and over 2 third can actually trace roots directly back to Albanian clans from Malësia through oral history. Most of the regular educated Albanian posters here, Kelmandasi for example, would completely disagree with you; these people are Albanians who speak a slavic tongue, SOME are Turkish or Mena admixed, hence why they appear more eastern. No point in down-voting me when I'm speaking facts.

One Sanžaklija put statistic for Sanžaklis in september on one Serbian forum.

Sanžak Muslims - sample 232
E-V13 - 34,38%
R1b-BY611 - 21,98%
I2a1b - 11,24%
J2b - 9,91%
J2a - 5,6%
I1 - 5,17%
G2a - 3,45%
R1a - 3,02%
I2a2 - 1,29%
J1 - 1,29%
C - 0,86%
T - 0,86%
H - 0,43%

Most of Sanžaklije originated from Albanian Malsor tribes Kuči (Kuqi) and Kelmendi.
Zurorlić confirmed this 2:00-2:25

[Ayetooey]

One Sanžaklije pu statistic for Sanžaklis in september on one Serbian forum.

Sanžak Muslims - sample 232
E-V13 - 34,38%
R1b-BY611 - 21,98%
I2a1b - 11,24%
J2b - 9,91%
J2a - 5,6%
I1 - 5,17%
G2a - 3,45%
R1a - 3,02%
I2a2 - 1,29%
J1 - 1,29%
C - 0,86%
T - 0,86%
H - 0,43%

Most of Sanžaklije originated from Albanian Malsor tribes Kuči (Kuqi) and Kelmendi.
Zurorlić confirmed this 2:00-2:15

I2 + R1 are probably Serbs from Montenegro who converted under the Ottomans.

[CommonSense]

Absolutely not like Albanians, way too eastern for us.

These Albanians are not eastern looking then? Half of them look more West Asian or Caucasian than European:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...hlight=lushnje

Why would those Sanjak people be less typical in Albania than these folks from Lushnje?