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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    300 footballers... For 11,3 million people...

    And for Russia: 300 footballers for 142 million people...

    Wow.
    Population size has hardly any effect on the margin of error. You should do a bit more research on how statistics work.

    At 95% confidence level a sample size of 300 has a 6% margin of error for a population size of 142 million

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/marg...or-calculator/

    Also that 6% margin of error doesn't mean it's an equal chance the margin will be 6% as opposed to zero or 1 percent. A zero or 1% is much more likely than a 6%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Population size has hardly any effect on the margin of error. You should do a bit more research on how statistics work.

    At 95% confidence level a sample size of 300 has a 6% margin of error for a population size of 142 million

    https://www.surveymonkey.com/mp/marg...or-calculator/

    Also that 6% margin of error doesn't mean it's an equal chance the margin will be 6% as opposed to zero or 1 percent. A zero or 1% is much more likely than a 6%
    Again, it's objectionably not accurate. You need a larger sample for accuracy. You can't deny this, can you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    Again, it's objectionably not accurate. You need a larger sample for accuracy. You can't deny this, can you?
    No you really don't. TNH used 300 sample s per country and XP used 313 samples per country. That gives overall 613 samples per country. That gives us a margin of error of 4%. Pretty accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    No you really don't. TNH used 300 sample s per country and XP used 313 samples per country. That gives overall 613 samples per country. That gives us a margin of error of 4%. Pretty accurate.
    I want 100% accuracy. I want the margin error to lean towards 0,5-1%. And that can be achieved with a greater sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    I want 100% accuracy. I want the margin error to lean towards 0,5-1%. And that can be achieved with a greater sample.
    We are not arguing about an extremely precise figure. You said Greece is equal to Italy in pigmentation. You don't need that level of accuracy to conclude weather your claim is true or not. It isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    We are not arguing about an extremely precise figure. You said Greece is equal to Italy in pigmentation. You don't need that level of accuracy to conclude weather your claim is true or not. It isn't.
    Yep, it is. Because other studies from both countries with a much larger sample and a much smaller margin of error, as a consequence, has showed that we're basically the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    Yep, it is. Because other studies from both countries with a much larger sample and a much smaller margin of error, as a consequence, has showed that we're basically the same.
    Show me those studies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    Show me those studies.
    https://archive.org/stream/attidella.../n297/mode/2up

    299κ soldiers, for Italy, by Livi.

    https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9

    12,404 adults for Greece, by Poulianos.

    Both show basically the same percentages between the two countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    https://archive.org/stream/attidella.../n297/mode/2up

    299κ soldiers, for Italy, by Livi.

    https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9

    12,404 adults for Greece, by Poulianos.

    Both show basically the same percentages between the two countries.
    I am well aware of Livi, but I can't read Greek so the link you provided is essentially useless to me. Even if I take you for your word that they show the same percentages, that does not necessarily mean both countries are actually equal in pigmentation unless you know they used the same scales and the same definition of "blond". What is described as "blond" in one study can also include dark blond in another study or even light brown. Those are relative terms. Greece is darker than Italy according to two amateur studies done on entire Europe using equal criteria (Xp and TNH). It is also more South than Italy and also we know Greeks more genetically southern than Italians. We can be pretty sure Italians are more light eyed than Greeks. TNH study found 30% light eyes for Italy witch fits perfectly with what Livi found 130 years ago (31%). For Greece TNH found 17% light eyes which fits very well with my average of 8 scientific studies for Greece which amounts to 19% that I calculated when making my light eyes map for Europe. Carleton Coon in ROE said Greece has around 15% light and light mixed eyes which also isn't far from previous numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supercomputer View Post
    I am well aware of Livi, but I can't read Greek so the link you provided is essentially useless to me. Even if I take you for your word that they show the same percentages, that does not necessarily mean both countries are actually equal in pigmentation unless you know they used the same scales and the same definition of "blond". What is described as "blond" in one study can also include dark blond in another study or even light brown. Those are relative terms. Greece is darker than Italy according to two amateur studies done on entire Europe using equal criteria (Xp and TNH). It is also more South than Italy and also we know Greeks more genetically southern than Italians. We can be pretty sure Italians are more light eyed than Greeks. TNH study found 30% light eyes for Italy witch fits perfectly with what Livi found 130 years ago (31%). For Greece TNH found 17% light eyes which fits very well with my average of 8 scientific studies for Greece which amounts to 19% that I calculated when making my light eyes map for Europe. Carleton Coon in ROE said Greece has around 15% light and light mixed eyes which also isn't far from previous numbers.
    I think Carleton Coon was the closest with 15%, a recent study also registers 14.6% for light eyes (blue or green) in the Greek population. This makes the Greeks, the darkest - eyed European group.

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