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    Default Fear of a Black Continent Why European elites are worrying about African babies.

    Emmanuel Macron, the youthful and ambitious president of the French, likes to talk about African birthrates. In the summer of 2017, he answered a question about why there couldn’t be a Marshall Plan for Africa by calling the continent’s problems “civilizational,” and lamenting that African countries “have seven or eight children per woman.”

    This was attacked by some as racist, defended by others as hardheaded realism about development economics. Macron obviously felt comfortable with what he’d said, because he returned to the idea last month at a Gates Foundation conference. (Bill Gates himself has also been talking a lot lately about population control and development in Africa.) “I always say,” Macron told the assembled do-gooders, “‘present me the woman who decided, being perfectly educated, to have seven, eight or nine children.’”

    This time there was a specifically female response: A Catholic University of America professor, Catherine Pakaluk, posted a photo of six of her eight children under the Twitter hashtag #postcardsforMacron, and soon there was a flood of female Ph.Ds posting pictures of their broods.


    As a pro-natalist, I am in full sympathy with the Macron-tweaking mothers, but as a descriptive matter the French president is basically correct. It’s a law of modern Western and East Asian history (we’ll call it Macron’s Law hereafter) that with wealth and education birthrates fall — and fall, and fall. The existence of occasional exceptions only highlights how exceptional they are.

    This plunge has happened without population-control interventions as well as with them, and because Western-supported population control efforts in the developing world tended to be inhumane and not-so-mildly racist, over the last couple of decades they have fallen somewhat out of fashion, with Gatesian philanthropists and politicians alike.

    So why are they creeping back into the discussion? For three reasons: Because African birthrates haven’t slowed as fast as Western experts once expected, because European demographics are following Macron’s Law toward the grave, and because European leaders are no longer nearly so optimistic about assimilating immigrants as even a few short years ago.

    In 2004, the U.N. projected that Africa’s population would level off by 2100 around two billion. Today it projects that it will reach 4.5 billion instead. This change in the expected trend is more likely a result of sluggish economic growth than proof of an African exception to Macron’s Law — though it holds open the possibility that Africa could be such an exception. But whatever the explanation, by century’s end two in five human beings could be African.

    This trend would have revived a certain kind of population-bomb anxiety no matter what, but the anxiety in Europe is a little more specific than that — because over the same period, Europe’s population is likely to drop by about one hundred million. (Western Europe’s leaders are a vanguard here: Neither Macron nor Angela Merkel nor Theresa May have any biological children.) In the late 1990s Europe and Africa had about the same population; a hundred years later there could be seven Africans for every European. And the experience of recent refugee crises has demonstrated to European leaders both how easily populations can move northward, and how much harder assimilation may be than they once hoped.


    So Macron is not likely to be alone in his fixation on large African families. An Afrophobia that a decade ago was confined to white-identitarians is likely to become an obsession of Europe’s technocratic center as well as its nationalist parties. The fixation will be genteel and diplomatic and couched in the language of development but the upshot will be clear: We must find a way to convince African women to stop having so many babies.

    However, in addition to being cruel, past population control campaigns were often ineffective, so it’s likely that Macron and his successors will mostly fail in their anti-natal efforts. And even the thing that might lead to the falling birthrate they desire, rapid African economic growth, might also accelerate migration in the short term — because poor people who suddenly get richer also gain the means and opportunity to move to somewhere richer still.

    Which is why anyone who hopes for something other than destabilization and disaster from the Eurafrican encounter should hope for a countervailing trend, in which Europeans themselves begin to have more children. This would not forestall the near-inevitable northward migration, but it would make it easier to assimilate immigrants once they arrived — European economies would be stronger, ethnic polarization would not fall so dramatically along generational lines, and in politics youthful optimism and ambition might help counteract the fear and pessimism of white Europeans growing old alone.

    Of course government efforts to raise the Western birthrate, France’s included, have been no more obviously successful than Western-sponsored efforts to cut birthrates elsewhere in the world.

    But focusing on European fertility has at least one moral advantage over Macron’s finger-wagging at African babymaking: It’s the part of the future that Europeans actually deserve to control.



    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/20/o...irthrates.html
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    Population of countries in 1900 AD:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...lation_in_1900
    Outside of China and India the most populated countries were mostly dominated by European/whites.

    Today...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._by_population

    And UN projections...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ility_variant)
    China drops slightly, African countries go way up, Europe falls.

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    Personally I couldn't care less, as long as we keep the borders as closed as possible, they can have as many babies as they want it's there problem and they need to sort out there own societies. Time for Nigeria, Ghana and other African states to take a bit of leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayetooey View Post
    Personally I couldn't care less, as long as we keep the borders as closed as possible, they can have as many babies as they want it's there problem and they need to sort out there own societies. Time for Nigeria, Ghana and other African states to take a bit of leadership.
    If the West closes its borders (and cuts aid), Africa will have a Malthusian collapse this century. Alternatively Europe gets blacked for all time.
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post
    If the West closes its borders (and cuts aid), Africa will have a Malthusian collapse this century.
    It's something they need to start taking responsibility for themselves; everyone talks about the rising stars of Nigeria, Ghana etc, but they need to start taking some responsibility within the continent. I think aid can be beneficial for us as well as them, as a stronger Africa means more trade which will equally benefit the West.

    Regardless, China is already harvesting Africa, it'll probably be there problem soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ayetooey View Post
    It's something they need to start taking responsibility for themselves; everyone talks about the rising stars of Nigeria, Ghana etc, but they need to start taking some responsibility within the continent. I think aid can be beneficial for us as well as them, as a stronger Africa means more trade which will equally benefit the West.

    Regardless, China is already harvesting Africa, it'll probably be there problem soon.


    IMO the Chinese will step up their colonisation of Africa and push for more African immigration to the West; and if we still have traitorous governments we'll be fully swamped.
    Spoiler!

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    What Europe needs now more than anything is virile black men

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Ketch View Post


    IMO the Chinese will step up their colonisation of Africa and push for more African immigration to the West; and if we still have traitorous governments we'll be fully swamped.
    Europe needs to work more with the North African states imo to keep these people from coming over.

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    7/8 children? Omg
    have what you can handle so that you can raise them properly
    both extremes are bad for society

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    In the late 1990s Europe and Africa had about the same population; a hundred years later there could be seven Africans for every European.
    ^^^ Afro-Europeans included.

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