Albanian/Serbo-Montenegrin tribes

[Dukagjini]

I thought I'd make a thread about the Albanian and Serbo-Montenegrin tribes, as it's still a big topic amongst many on TA. Most of our discussion on these tribes, including genetics, etc.

I feel is best discussed in a thread like this, which will help distinguish tribal origins between Albanian and Montenegrin tribes.

[Dukagjini]

Kelmendi (tribe)

Kelmendi (Albanian: Kelmendi) is a northern Albanian tribe and region (Kelmendi mountains, Malet e Kelmendit) in the mountainous borderlands of Albania towards Montenegro, of the wider Malësia-region. Part of the region lies within the Kelmend municipality, and is composed of a Roman Catholic majority and a Muslim minority. The Kelmendi speak a subdialect of Gheg Albanian as in the rest of northern Albania.

Families hailing from Kelmendi can also be found in Plav, Skadarska Krajina (Shestani-Kraja) in Montenegro, and Rugova in Kosovo[a], where they are Muslim. The name is derived from Saint Clement, the patron saint of the region.

[Dukagjini]

Hoti (tribe)

Hoti is a historical Albanian tribe and region in Malësia, a divided region located in northern Albania and southern Montenegro.

[Kelmendasi]

I find that the wikipedia pages for the Albanian clans are somewhat inaccurate as the Serbs like to edit the pages with anti-Albanian sources which push Serbian agendas. Northern Albania had about 6 main tribal regions. 1) Malsia e madhe - Kelmendi, Kastrati, Shkreli(Reci and Rrjoll usually are considered within Shkrel even though they have separate origins iirc), Hoti, Gruda, Trieshi and Kuqi(Albanian parts). 2) Dukagjin - Shala, Shoshi, Shllaku, Mazreku, Dushmani and Toplana. 3) Pult - Plani, Kiri and Suma. 4) Malsia e Gjakoves - Bytyci, Gashi, Krasniqi, Nikaj-Merturi. and Morina 5) Puka - Berisha(Includes Sopi), Kabashi, Thaci and Qerreti. 6) Mirdita(Malsia e Lezhes included) - Dibrri, Kushneni, Oroshi, Spaci, Fani, Bulgeri, Vela and Manatia. There used to be other tribes but these are the main ones which survived late

[Kelmendasi]

Hoti (tribe)

Hoti is a historical Albanian tribe and region in Malësia, a divided region located in northern Albania and southern Montenegro.

The tribe was Albanophone and Roman Catholic,[11] one of five tribes of Maltsia e madhe.[12] The tribe, which was one barjak ("flag"), was made up of 500 houses, have out of which only three, those of the barjaktar, were Muslim (converted seven generations prior).[11] During times of war and mobilisation of troops, the bajraktar (chieftain) of Hoti was recognised by the Ottoman government as leader of all forces of the Maltsia e madhe tribes of Kelmendi, Shkreli, Kastrati, Gruda and three smaller tribes.[7] Twelve houses descended from the Anas ("indigenous"), who the Hoti could marry.[11] Intermarriage was mostly done with the Kastrati.[12] The closest relations were held with the Kastrati, whom the Hoti traditionally married, while close relations were also held with the Triepshi and Gruda tribes.[13]

Kelmendi used to be the bajraktar of Malsia once but Hoti took this place later on.

[Skerdilaid]

I find that the wikipedia pages for the Albanian clans are somewhat inaccurate as the Serbs like to edit the pages with anti-Albanian sources which push Serbian agendas.

Most are for sure, solely because of their editing. I find it very odd that they are this active there on our pages.

Bunch of insecure Balkan niggers, I tell you (always on our cock)

[Kelmendasi]

Most are for sure, solely because of their editing. I find it very odd that they are this active there on our pages.

Bunch of insecure Balkan niggers, I tell you (always on our cock)

They like to push the Serbian origin BS, like in the page about Kelmendi and Trieshi. It is very insecure, they removed all reference to the Albanian project as well lol. They do the same to the pages about Albanian noble families, they say that the Dushmani are Serb in origin and that the Spani(a family from areas around Shkodra) are Greeks lol.

[Coolguy1]

Can villages be inhabited by different tribes? Where does the tribal border end? Are there tribes in Elbasan and Tirana that are native?

[Mikula]

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[Kelmendasi]

Can villages be inhabited by different tribes? Where does the tribal border end? Are there tribes in Elbasan and Tirana that are native?

I guess now there a villages that are inhabited by peoples of various tribal origins but back then it wouldn't have been too common unless in Urbanised areas. I'm guessing that there were tribes in central Albania as Albanians all were using tribal communities at one point in time, it's just that I don't know their names. Same is with southern Albania