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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    He does seem to resemble Z5018>Cluster A quite a bit. Well at least now we know that they are Albanian in origin.
    Well I don’t think anyone doubted their Albanian origin besides Serbian circles who pushed their Serbian theories - for all our northern clans not just for Dushmani. Someone needs to find and set straight these Serbs who edit and create multiple articles on wiki related to Albanian families. Have a look at this one for example, beyond retarded: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dushmani_family

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Well I don’t think anyone doubted their Albanian origin besides Serbian circles who pushed their Serbian theories - for all our northern clans not just for Dushmani. Someone needs to find and set straight these Serbs who edit and creat multiple article on wiki related to Albanian families. Have a look at this one for example, beyond retarded: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dushmani_family

    Man are they complexed bunch or what? Jesus
    I find it annoying how they put their noses into things that don't concern them, like what have the Dushmani got to do with Serbs lol... Problem is that Wikipedia is used extremely often and so people will be misinformed about these things and believe that practically all Albanians have some sort Serbian or Greek origin. It's ridiculous and obsessive
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I find it annoying how they put their noses into things that don't concern them, like what have the Dushmani got to do with Serbs lol... Problem is that Wikipedia is used extremely often and so people will be misinformed about these things and believe that practically all Albanians have some sort Serbian or Greek origin. It's ridiculous and obsessive
    Exactly! Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re state sponsored actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Exactly! Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re state sponsored actually.
    Lol. Their wiki page on Albanians is even worse, they still claim that Albanians come from the Caucasus, a theory which has been obsolete for the past decades and that the Illyrian and other Paleo-Balkan theories are the ones which are challenged. The page is locked as well, so nobody can edit the page. They also use Jovan Deretic for reference like he's some serious historian
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Lol. Their wiki page on Albanians is even worse, they still claim that Albanians come from the Caucasus, a theory which has been obsolete for the past decades and that the Illyrian and other Paleo-Balkan theories are the ones which are challenged. The page is locked as well, so nobody can edit the page. They also use Jovan Deretic for reference like he's some serious historian
    Fucking pests, honestly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    Fucking pests, honestly.
    Fucking retarded, that's why they get bombed. Who cares about their wikipedia pages or lies about Albanians. They cant understand how the world works.

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    Interesting page on the Kuqi done by the Serbs from Poreklo. At least they seem to acknowledge their Albanian origin, it's in Serbian but translate works fine imo. https://www.poreklo.rs/2018/10/23/rod-kuca/?lang=lat. They say how Lal Ndreka(Lale Drekalov) was an Albanian and Catholic who converted to Orthodoxy when he married his second wife who was an Orthodox Serb, his first wife was a Catholic Albanian from Kastrati. If he didn't convert then perhaps Kuqi would have remained Albanian and Catholic, according to the author of this page. Early census on the area showed Albanians as being the majority. Also there seems to be a branch of Kuqi which belongs to R1b>BY611>Z2705.

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    They originally started off as Albanians from the area of Malsia e madhe, around the area of Reci(Shkrel).
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Don't serbs claim that old kuci was of Slavic origin as many from this kuci are r1a?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukagjini View Post
    Don't serbs claim that old kuci was of Slavic origin as many from this kuci are r1a?

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    They are related those 2 tribes mixed. I am a mix myself from that myself

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