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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    They like to push the Serbian origin BS, like in the page about Kelmendi and Trieshi. It is very insecure, they removed all reference to the Albanian project as well lol. They do the same to the pages about Albanian noble families, they say that the Dushmani are Serb in origin and that the Spani(a family from areas around Shkodra) are Greeks lol.
    Yes I have seen this. Nearly every Albanian noble family is considered of Serbian/Greek origin. I didn't want to post Wikipedia, but it was the quickest thing I could do at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    I know, did see that lmao

    Anyway, a Dushmani sample coming out soon! So we shall set them straight regarding their origins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukagjini View Post
    Yes I have seen this. Nearly every Albanian noble family is considered of Serbian/Greek origin. I didn't want to post Wikipedia, but it was the quickest thing I could do at the time.
    It's just weird. To be fair there aren't many other sources in English on the Albanian clans, for us Albs the sources on Foleja are the best for the Albanian clans
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Yh hopefully it comes soon, What do you predict them to be? Still though, even if we try to change it they will re-edit. What got me the most was Spani claim, Greeks in Shkodra ....
    They should be BY611 or L283, me thinks. They believe to be Thaç, so L241 is possible too I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    They should be BY611 or L283, me thinks. They believe to be Thaç, so L241 is possible too I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukagjini View Post
    How do you know they are Dushmani?
    Their last name is Duzhmani and they are from Dushman, Postribe with origin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skerdilaid View Post
    They should be BY611 or L283, me thinks. They believe to be Thaç, so L241 is possible too I guess.
    Maybe E-BY4461 since Toplana and Shllaku are from this clade and are near the Dushmani? But I guess BY611 and L283 does make sense. Wasn't aware of the Thaci origin, L241 probably would make sense as well since many Thaci in Albania are L241.
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    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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    Only for Serbian and Albanian users (for understanding). Albanian historian about Skanderbeg!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    Maybe E-BY4461 since Toplana and Shllaku are from this clade and are near the Dushmani? But I guess BY611 and L283 does make sense. Wasn't aware of the Thaci origin, L241 probably would make sense as well since many Thaci in Albania are L241.
    They say that they moved up there from Thaç, when they are not sure. But I believe before or just when Thaçi was settling their current tribal lands, and I am thinking they probably are some Anas group that got displaced by them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    Only for Serbian and Albanian users (for understanding). Albanian historian about Skanderbeg!

    Well Skanderbeg's maternal Slavic origin isn't something unknown. As for the flag part, that was used out of context and the rest was edited. The historian probably would've carried on saying that Skanderbeg's flag was based on the Byzantine one and not that he raised the exact Byzantine flag. He didn't say that he raised the Byzantine one, the video creator edited it to seem as such though. He raised the Kastrioti banner, which in turn was based on the Byzantine one.
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    The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ...

    - Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.

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