Berlin is lost

**sean** · 05-04-2020, 11:57 AM

**Hapanuwa** · 05-04-2020, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Zeno of Citium

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Yeah, I was talking about Germany itself. Germany did the war because the warmonger Churchill forced him too.

And shambolic economy? Really? Said by a Durk whose country is about to ask a gigantic bailout from the IMF because its debt has skyrocketed way above the roof and its currency has hit rock bottom? Before the crisis we got like 3% growth rates, while Durkey 0,5% and our debt was decreasing in really rapid rates, unlike yours which is increasing exponentially. Even in this crisis we are are projected to have up to 5% recession for this year, only to have 10% growth next year. And, if the tourist season is mostly saved, which is probable now, as today measures are beginning to be lifted, then, we're not going to experience recession almost at all. In combination of our handling of the crisis, which was phenomenal, in all aspects, and markets evaluate it greatly, we're going to be benefitted. Unlike you.

Are you really believe in your own fairytale that Greece's economy wasn't in absolute shambles the last few years. Greece has an unemployment rate of 16.5%, which is way higher than EU average of 6.6%. Greece's unemployment rate was even 27.9% in 2013 and had many loans from other EU countries, who even handed out 'loans' to your country, while there were even multiple talks about exemption of repayment. Your debt to GDP ratio is 176.6% for god's sake (compared to Turkey's 33.1%). Shambolic wouldn't be enough to describe the state of affairs Greece's government officials have put its people through.

Turkey is irrelevant since it's not part of the discussion. I live in the Netherlands and can show you how a state really can manage its economy. The fact that you bring in Turkey's economical situation, which was neither a part of your dumb comment nor my reply, indicates that you have a weak level of self reflection. If Turkey would be in the EU, which we clearly do not want, it would be way richer and more developed than Greece because of its size. Turkey is simply bigger & younger both in population, land mass etc and overall has more potential. So don't talk stupid and stop acting like a edgy little teen. This is not a diss to Greece btw.

**Terminator98** · 05-04-2020, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by yamagi

Of course the more South and Eastward you move the more Mediterranean/Oriental looking the people look.

Greeks are more Mediterranean/MENA looking compared to Serbians, Turks are more Mena/Asiatic compared to Greeks, and Syrians are more MENA looking compared to Turks.

Mediterranean ≠ MENA looking.