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    Quote Originally Posted by Haider View Post
    She said she is from Korce, Albania.









    No, she is not from Korça. Her father Pavllo Koçi(pianist) is from Qeparo and her mother Andromaqi Koçi, nee Nako an opera singer is from Saranda but her origine is from Nivica, Gjirokastër. Both are ethnic Albanians.


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    the brown eyes from American side, I saw at least two Albanian members with grey eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laku View Post
    No, she is not from Korça. Her father Pavllo Koçi(pianist) is from Qeparo and her mother Andromaqi Koçi, nee Nako an opera singer is from Saranda but her origine is from Nivica, Gjirokastër. Both are ethnic Albanians.


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    Screenshot 2021-07-24 at 12-57-08 Andromaqi Koci.png
    And she was born in Tirana:

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    She's predom alpinid.
    She's had at least one nose job. Her original nose was boxier with a bump.
    Her mom looks very typically southern albo, whereas her dad looks epirotic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosteece View Post
    She's predom alpinid.
    She's had at least one nose job. Her original nose was boxier with a bump.
    Her mom looks very typically southern albo, whereas her dad looks epirotic.
    Yeah, he looks Albanian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laku View Post
    Yeah, he looks Albanian.
    Her mom does.
    Her dad does not.
    He looks epirotic, which is not surprising.
    Qeparo is an albanised epirotic village.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosteece View Post
    Her mom does.
    Her dad does not.
    He looks epirotic, which is not surprising.
    Qeparo is an albanised epirotic village.
    Epirot, Albanian are the same. Even our language(Albanian) was called epirot language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laku View Post
    Epirot, Albanian are the same. Even our language(Albanian) was called epirot language.
    Sure, Albo.
    At some point in time, Thrace was called Macedonia.
    The Macedonian Dynasty hailed its origin from Thrace.
    Thanks to Christianity, Southern Europe struggled with the Dark Ages for over a millennium.
    Epirotes are not Albanians.
    Some modern Albanians of the South are Epirotes, though, originally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosteece View Post
    Sure, Albo.
    At some point in time, Thrace was called Macedonia.
    The Macedonian Dynasty hailed its origin from Thrace.
    Thanks to Christianity, Southern Europe struggled with the Dark Ages for over a millennium.
    Epirotes are not Albanians.
    Some modern Albanians of the South are Epirotes, though, originally.
    1705-1715
    Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz:
    Correspondence on the Albanian Language
    II. On this occasion, I would beg you, Sir, to send me the Lord's Prayer in the Epirotic (Albanian) language in an interlinear version and would be obliged to you if you could add the Credo, if possible. Please also send me the titles of the two books in this idiom, their size and the date and place of publication, for this language, being little known, is worthy of being investigated. I will endeavour to find these books in Rome. With them, ancient monuments have been dug up from the foundations of Notre Dame in Paris.

    (Hanover, 28 December 1711)

    … The modern European alphabets are derived from Latin, with the exception of the two Slavic ones: Cyrillic and so-called Glagolitic. Some authors later attributed these to Saint Jerome who was of Illyrian origin, but falsely so, as if the ancient Illyrian language were some sort of Slavic. But the Slavs were late to arrive in Illyria, not before the age of Justinian. The ancient Illyrians were of Celtic origin. They used a language closely related to Germanic and Gaulish. It is evident that relics of this are preserved in the modern language, in particular in that of the Epirots, of which I have seen specimens published. Nowadays they generally call the Slavic language Illyrian because the Slavs settled in Illyria. …

    (Vienna, 13 January 1714)

    II. …One day in Berlin you gave me a book in the language of the Epirots, printed in Rome by the Propaganda Fide. I believe it had the Lord's Prayer in that language and I took it out. But I cannot easily find it in my letters. Would you be so kind, Sir, as to send it to me once more?

    (Hanover, 24 March 1715)
    [Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Opera Philologica (Hildesheim: Georg Olms, 1989). Translated from the French by Robert Elsie.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laku View Post
    1705-1715
    Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz:
    Correspondence on the Albanian Language
    II. On this occasion, I would beg you, Sir, to send me the Lord's Prayer in the Epirotic (Albanian) language in an interlinear version and would be obliged to you if you could add the Credo, if possible. Please also send me the titles of the two books in this idiom, their size and the date and place of publication, for this language, being little known, is worthy of being investigated. I will endeavour to find these books in Rome. With them, ancient monuments have been dug up from the foundations of Notre Dame in Paris.

    (Hanover, 28 December 1711)

    … The modern European alphabets are derived from Latin, with the exception of the two Slavic ones: Cyrillic and so-called Glagolitic. Some authors later attributed these to Saint Jerome who was of Illyrian origin, but falsely so, as if the ancient Illyrian language were some sort of Slavic. But the Slavs were late to arrive in Illyria, not before the age of Justinian. The ancient Illyrians were of Celtic origin. They used a language closely related to Germanic and Gaulish. It is evident that relics of this are preserved in the modern language, in particular in that of the Epirots, of which I have seen specimens published. Nowadays they generally call the Slavic language Illyrian because the Slavs settled in Illyria. …

    (Vienna, 13 January 1714)

    II. …One day in Berlin you gave me a book in the language of the Epirots, printed in Rome by the Propaganda Fide. I believe it had the Lord's Prayer in that language and I took it out. But I cannot easily find it in my letters. Would you be so kind, Sir, as to send it to me once more?

    (Hanover, 24 March 1715)
    [Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz, Opera Philologica (Hildesheim: Georg Olms, 1989). Translated from the French by Robert Elsie.]
    Epirotes spoke hellenic dialects, except for the Chaonians who were on the bufferzone, which probably resulted in bilingualism in the most northern parts of ancient Chaonia.
    By early medieval times, most Chaonia was already bilingual.
    The rest of Epirus was Greek-speaking, though, until Albos commenced invading in the late Middle Ages.
    Anything else is bogus and I have no intention of engaging in convo with Albos who have no history or culture of their own and keep misappropriation others'.
    Koci's mom looks Southern Albo, especially her eye area, whereas her dad looks epirotic.

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