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    Question Religion aside, is all of Ireland culturally homogeneous?

    My point being, would a unified Ireland work in actuality? I know of the wars and Catholicism vs Protestantism feuds. But I've never been to the island so I know nothing about whether or not there would be protests (?)
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    Anglo/Scottish settlers have nothing in common with the native Irish.

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    It could work if the religions have dialogue.
    Im not sure how much Scottish/English influence in Northern Ireland.

    If Brexit happens maybe the CANZUK countries can figure out another deal instead of EU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Anglo/Scottish settlers have nothing in common with the native Irish.
    This region is more confusing to me than I once thought. Between Britannia, Wales, Cornwall, Scotland.. And the various Languages + genetics.
    They are much more than just simple Islands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Galke View Post
    My point being, would a unified Ireland work in actuality? I know of the wars and Catholicism vs Protestantism feuds. But I've never been to the island so I know nothing about whether or not there would be protests (?)
    It could happen but it would be very difficult on Ireland to achieve it. Loyalism would not sit quiet, they have potential loyalist paramilitary and vigilante groups.

    The brexit backstop is a bit of a test on the generation of peace that Ulster has had, depending on where it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Galke View Post
    This region is more confusing to me than I once thought. Between Britannia, Wales, Cornwall, Scotland.. And the various Languages + genetics.
    They are much more than just simple Islands.
    Bobby simplified it too much really. Edward Bruce's and Wolfe Tone's (a non catholic) history in Ireland is prominent for example. What about those who descend from the Gallowglass or the Hiberno Normans who became more Irish than the Irish themselves?

    It aint simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    Bobby simplified it too much really. Edward Bruce's and Wolfe Tone's (a non catholic) history in Ireland is prominent for example. What about those who descend from the Gallowglass or the Hiberno Normans who became more Irish than the Irish themselves?

    It aint simple.
    Also people like Sorley Boy McDonnell who established the McDonnell clan in Ireland. He was a Catholic and his father was Alexander MacDonnell Lord of Islay and Kintire. He married Mary O'Neill daughter of Conn O'Neill. He became very powerful in Ulster.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorley_Boy_MacDonnell

    I don't think Bobby knows Irish history very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herr Galke View Post
    My point being, would a unified Ireland work in actuality? I know of the wars and Catholicism vs Protestantism feuds. But I've never been to the island so I know nothing about whether or not there would be protests (?)
    Not it wouldn't work. Northern Ireland is culturally different from the Republic of Ireland, in general. Even Catholics in NI don't want unification with the South.

    The north has the Protestant work ethic, they are industrious, etc. In the south it is very different.
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    Northern Ireland has had a unique regional culture even before the involvement of the English.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Not it wouldn't work. Northern Ireland is culturally different from the Republic of Ireland, in general. Even Catholics in NI don't want unification with the South.

    The north has the Protestant work ethic, they are industrious, etc. In the south it is very different.
    I guess that's why the North has a much lower GDP and jobs than the South and why Britain has to pay so much money to keep it going?

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