Bobby Martnen sings his ancestral song Loch Lomond!

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-31-2018, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Yet nowadays, America could kick Holland's ass in 20 minutes. The student hath become the master.

Heh. No: because then you would get the whole of Europe piling up on you and you'd be speaking Russian.

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 10-31-2018, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Heh. No: because then you would get the whole of Europe piling up on you and you'd be speaking Russian.

Most European countries wouldn't be willing to provoke America just to defend little Holland.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-31-2018, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Most European countries wouldn't be willing to provoke America just to defend little Holland.

Ooh. They would: in fact Russia would consider your nation a direct threat and blow you to hell. Funny how not even the yankees could genetically civilize you on their march through Georgia. Got to blame the Brits for that one: they dumped their trash down South.

**Ayetooey** · 10-31-2018, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Most European countries wouldn't be willing to provoke America just to defend little Holland.

I'm pretty sure if the USA attacked the Netherlands which is in the heart of Western Europe, all of its neighbours would help defend it. Why would America attack its only friends anyway?

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 10-31-2018, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Ooh. They would: in fact Russia would consider your nation a direct threat and blow you to hell. Funny how not even the yankees could genetically civilize you on their march through Georgia. Got to blame the Brits for that one: they dumped their trash down South.

Russia doesn't really care about Holland...

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-31-2018, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by ayetooey

I'm pretty sure if the USA attacked the Netherlands which is in the heart of Western Europe, all of its neighbours would help defend it. Why would America attack its only friends anyway?

Funny how America wouldn't have any friends left then. Particularly since Western Europe defends the GIUK gap and Danish-held Greenland has parts of NORAD housed there. That means that the Eastern Seafront is open to a Russian invasion. And we just might let them pass then.

Indeed: France controls much of the Atlantic coast and with both Britain and Western Europe on the side of the Russians then: it's game over for America. It becomes a very dangerous place for American ships.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-31-2018, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Russia doesn't really care about Holland...

Ooh they certainly do care about access to the Atlantic. Which is what we, and the other countries around us, then offer them.

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 10-31-2018, 11:24 PM

Originally Posted by ayetooey

I'm pretty sure if the USA attacked the Netherlands which is in the heart of Western Europe, all of its neighbours would help defend it. Why would America attack its only friends anyway?

Holland is irrelevant on the world stage. Just like no one did anything when Russia took Crimea, no one would do anything if we took Holland.

**~~Bobby Martnen~~** · 10-31-2018, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker

Ooh they certainly do care about access to the Atlantic. Which is what we, and the other countries around us, then offer them.

America could offer Russia permanent port facilities in Amsterdam and the Hague.

**The Lawspeaker** · 10-31-2018, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen

Holland is irrelevant on the world stage. Just like no one did anything when Russia took Crimea, no one would do anything if we took Holland.

Worse for you: we also control islands in the Carribbean: we just might give those basis to the Venezolan and Russian navy. Ever heard of Operation Drumbeat ? Look it up.