Were there any Celtic tribes who inhabited northern Europe?

[Peterski]

I think they were trading partners for a while and the Celts gave them tech,
which the Proto-Germanics later used against them to exterminate them!
Finally the Romans finished them off for good in Gaul.
What an interesting history, of perseverance.

Celts were around 1/3 of Europe's population, do you really think they were physically exterminated?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-s-population

Rather absorbed and assimilated by various other ethnic groups. But indeed their collapse is shocking.

[War Chef]

Celts were around 1/3 of Europe's population, do you really think they were physically exterminated?:

Obviously not genetically. But culturally they were. Linguistically some substrate survives in the French language. Ofc there's Welsh and all the other Gaelic languages but I don't consider them the same as Hallstat Celts.

[Peterski]

Obviously not genetically. But culturally they were. Linguistically some substrate survives in the French language.

There are ca. 5,5 million Bretons in north-western France who still preserve their Celtic culture, and partially language.

[War Chef]

There are ca. 5,5 million Bretons in north-western France who still preserve their Celtic culture, and partially language.

I don't consider them the same as Hallstatt Celts (pure stock Celts).
They (Picts etc.) absorbed lots of DNA from the stone-hedge builders, who were not Celtic but native Briton.

[Peterski]

I don't consider them the same as Hallstatt Celts (pure stock Celts).
They (Picts etc.) absorbed lots of DNA from the stone-hedge builders, who were not Celtic but native Briton.

That would be like saying that you don't consider South Slavs or North Russians as Slavs, because they absorbed some Balkan and Uralic DNA...

Probably there is nobody left today who is of 100% Proto-Slavic ancestry. But we all have large segments of DNA in common, studies confirm:

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1001555

[War Chef]

That would be like saying that you don't consider South Slavs or North Russians as Slavs, because they absorbed some Balkan and Uralic DNA...

Probably there is nobody left today who is of 100% Proto-Slavic ancestry. But we all have large segments of DNA in common, studies confirm:

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiolog...l.pbio.1001555

So why do the Celts get assimilated but the native, stone-hendge Britains don't? The Gaels are probably as Celtic as the Montenegrins/Macedonians are Slavic, probably even way less.

[War Chef]

South-East Poles are probably the best proxy for proto-Slavs. I'd say western Ukrainians, but they have a pretty sizeable Iranic-Turkic-Uralic component that's hard to ignore.

[Peterski]

South-East Poles are probably the best proxy for proto-Slavs.

South-East Poles (Podkarpackie) have large amounts of Balkan and German admixtures.

Lemko, an ethnic minority from South-East Poland, has even more Balkan DNA, see here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...rlice-Counties

[War Chef]

South-East Poles (Podkarpackie) have large amounts of Balkan and German admixtures.

Lemko, an ethnic minority from South-East Poland, has even more Balkan DNA, see here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...rlice-Counties

Ironically the Balts are the best proxy for the proto-Slavs. But of the Slavic speakers it's gotta be some sort of Polish group. Definitely not rusyns, hutsuls or lemkos as they have mountain tatar genetics + some gepid/goth genetics.

[Peterski]

Definitely not rusyns, hutsuls or lemkos as they have mountain tatar genetics + some gepid/goth genetics.

Whaaat?

These groups came to Poland late, around the 15th century, and settled in areas that had previously been (sparsely) settled by Poles or uninhabited.