Spain possible future?

[alnortedelsur]

Tell that to the thousands and thousands of spaguettis that come every year to Spain to spend their time chilling on the playa under el sol caliente


Identity? dont make me laugh most of Catalans have non-Catalan origins, specially Andalusian.

These are the most common surnames in Catalonia. To find the first Catalan surname you have to go to the 26th place




Aragón part of Catalonia?????????? if always was the opposite, for God sake

Only in TA...



No existe la ciudadanía catalana, hombre

Esos no son pakis sino hindús (como Fractal, haha); creo que se llaman shiks o algo parecido, aunque es lo de menos. Lo de más es saber que son inmigrantes que viven en Cataluña, y que los políticos separatistas han bautizado como nous catalans (nuevos catalanes), y los usan para manifestaciones, donde éstos reivindican que son catalanes y que quieren la independencia. Son sólo una pequeña fracción del entramado de inmigrantes que los separatistas están usando para pedir la independencia. Hay muchísimos moros y negros también



Simplemente google "nous catalans" y fliparás

La solucion es una patada por el culo a esos politicos y a esa inmigracion.

[Mingle]

Aragón part of Catalonia?????????? if always was the opposite, for God sake

Only in TA...

It was the other user that mentioned it, not me. I said IF it were to ever claim Aragon, then it would be many years after Catalonia hypothetically gained independence. But even if Catalonia did somehow manage to separate, I still don't think they'd claim any of Aragon except for La Franja (Catalan-speaking part).

Catalan identity isn't based purely on genetics. Some can be assimilated Andalusians. I'm sure many people have foreign origins if they go back far enough. Even if Catalans with Andalusian origin are not really Catalan, there still exist native Catalans anyways and they have their own language.

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[Cristiano viejo]

La solucion es una patada por el culo a esos politicos y a esa inmigracion.

Todos estos inmigrantes, además de infinidad de menores de edad, de votos repetidos hasta cuatro veces, con urnas en las calles y tiradas por el suelo junto con decenas de papeletas, fueron usados en el "referéndum" de independencia que los separatistas organizaron el año pasado, que aunque siendo ilegal ellos utilizaron para decirle al mundo que la mayoría de catalanes están a favor de la independencia

Lo peor es que hay gente que les han creído, y por eso aquí nos toca discutir con algunos que claman que "los catalanes quieren la independencia"

[Cristiano viejo]

It was the other user that mentioned it, not me. I said IF it were to ever claim Aragon, then it would be many years after Catalonia hypothetically gained independence. But even if Catalonia did somehow manage to separate, I still don't think they'd claim any of Aragon except for La Franja (Catalan-speaking part).

They can ask for the sun if they want, you unknow what is happening in Catalonia and the net of lies they are creating to manipulate the history. They claim Catalonia never belonged to the Kingdom of Aragón (absolutely false), that the kingdom of Aragón was never called so but the kingdom Catalano-aragonés (absolutely false) or even that Columbus was Catalan (absolutely false too ofc).

Catalan identity isn't based purely on genetics. Some can be assimilated Andalusians. I'm sure many people have foreign origins if they go back far enough. Even if Catalans with Andalusian origin are not really Catalan, there still exist native Catalans anyways and they have their own language.

Having an own language means nothing. We Castilians have our own language and we dont claim we are a nation. Same for Galicians, Asturians, Aragonese, Valencians or Navarrese. Why? because a Chinese can go to Catalonia and learn Catalan. According you is he a Catalan just because he speaks Catalan? does he have a Catalan identity for speaking Catalan? please...

[alnortedelsur]

It was the other user that mentioned it, not me. I said IF it were to ever claim Aragon, then it would be many years after Catalonia hypothetically gained independence. But even if Catalonia did somehow manage to separate, I still don't think they'd claim any of Aragon except for La Franja (Catalan-speaking part).

Play it on your PlayStation.

Catalan identity isn't based purely on genetics. Some can be assimilated Andalusians. I'm sure many people have foreign origins if they go back far enough. Even if Catalans with Andalusian origin are not really Catalan, there still exist native Catalans anyways and they have their own language.

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Balearic natives have also their own regional language that is a regional variant of Catalan, and most of them want to keep being part of Spain. My mom is Mallorcan native (she even grew up hearing her parents talking Mallorquin with each other) and she feels Spanish to the core. So what?

Same for most Catalans, no matter how separatists want to impose their will against the will of the majorities. Castilian-Spanish is far more spoken in Catalonia than Catalan. That's why the separatist politicians have always been desperate to impose Catalan in Catalonia in detriment of Castilian-Spanish to have an "ethno-linguistic" argument to keep up with their separatist agenda. Fuck them!

Ah... and Catalonians are genetically and phenotypically the same as other Spaniards.

[Bobby Martnen]

Fantastic! I am happy that you want that, because as that will not happen ever, you will be unhappy

Learn to speak English, Poncho.

[Bobby Martnen]

You like independence movements, right? What would happen if there was an independence movement in one of the states of the United States?
Will you support it?

If it's California, I'd be thrilled to be rid of them.

[Bobby Martnen]

Sit down and wait...

Peoples deserve freedom.

[Papastratosels26]

Spain will remain united.

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[Mopi Licinius Crassus]

People like you made UK a mestizo paradise, so no thanks.

many northern english towns are more like islamabad than the UK these days