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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    Did Australopithecines and Neanderthals have an eternal soul?
    I firmly believe that Earth is 7531 years old and that whole humankind comes from Adam and Eve and has eternal soul. I don't believe in evolution and existence of any reasonable beings in flesh except humans, for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I firmly believe that Earth is 7531 years old and that whole humankind comes from Adam and Eve and has eternal soul. I don't believe in evolution and existence of any reasonable beings in flesh except humans, for sure.
    Do you know what I believe? Life is endless, takes on different forms and meanings. Every living being is connected to each other. Thoughts are material. Thoughts materialize very well during a person's lifetime. But since life is endless, belief in hell materializes after death. Whoever believes in a new life on earth will find it. Those who believe that they will go to heaven will always sit on a cloud and be bored. Whoever believes in eternal hell will find eternal hell and will be fried in fire forever. Religion is very dangerous. Any thought of ours is just as dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    I wonder if dead pigeons see jesus too when they get hit by a car.

    Humans love to feel special. Kind of cute but wrong nonetheless.
    You're not a pigeon. But I guess nowadays you can identify as one if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    I wonder if dead pigeons see jesus too when they get hit by a car.

    Humans love to feel special. Kind of cute but wrong nonetheless.
    Animals are sentient beings too.
    Everything in creation is made of the same Spirit Essence.

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    I don't know if I'm remembering correctly but the Christian concept of hell was heavily influenced by the Ancient Greeks, I believe. Jews don't have a hell as Christians know it. It's more similar to what Christians would call purgatory.

    I'm pretty sure the above is correct but I'm falling asleep so I'm not going to double check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    At what point did we get a soul? Which human species got it first in between chimps and us? Homo Erectus, Abilis,... you name it.
    Chimps are animals, they never had it. Plus evolution theory is false. There's one humankind started from Adam and Eve, every human has soul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Chimps are animals, they never had it. Plus evolution theory is false. There's one humankind started from Adam and Eve, every human has soul.
    Even Orthodox priests do not deny evolution. The Old Testament is quite an allegorical book. It is not necessary to take the information verbatim. Do you deny Neanderthals and Australopithecines?

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    there is no free will either- we are just co-dependent animals . almost like roboters- with a brain producing too much unneccessary phantasms (So we are tricked to believe we had a choice)- for humanity this potential was also of great help- but only a minority of people could and can use this capability really properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    there is no free will either- we are just co-dependent animals . almost like roboters- with a brain producing too much unneccessary phantasms (So we are tricked to believe we had a choice)- for humanity this potential was also of great help- but only a minority of people could and can use this capability really properly.
    Of course there is free will. Nobody is forcing you to love God and serve him. It's your own choice. But every choice has consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    Even Orthodox priests do not deny evolution. The Old Testament is quite an allegorical book. It is not necessary to take the information verbatim. Do you deny Neanderthals and Australopithecines?
    I don't believe in macro-evolution, I believe God created Adam and Eve as it says in the Bible. It's not allegorical.

    Neanderthals were human, Australopithecines were apes. Huge difference between these two.
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