Roma woman in Punjab village searching for her roots

**Mortimer** · 11-04-2018, 08:02 AM

https://www.facebook.com/solomia.kar...9776781559648/

https://www.facebook.com/solomia.kar...9070278296965/

not sure whether she looks really punjabi, seems to be weddoid. do you think she could still pass for punjabi? i hope you can watch the videos. what do the indians think? there is a whole group of villagers who welcome her in the first video. and they know about roma. its really interesting and not long hope you can watch it.

younger

**Thambi** · 11-04-2018, 08:28 AM

she looks mexican the more i look at her. on the surface yes she could pass as typical in india, punjab also but would look atypical the more you look at her. Kind of like the saudi princess who could pass as indian superficially but looking at the features more she clearly looks arab.

but yeah interesting videos. so indians were taken as slaves to the middle east and sold to many different places in west asia and europe. so migration was there but many were taken out of their own will. Even afghans, uzbkes, central asians took indian slaves. Its terrible. Damn i never knew indians were used as slaves in the surrounding nations. I need to study that region's history more. its quite shocking and embarrassing to say the least. I really feel sorry for the roma people.

**Mortimer** · 11-04-2018, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by Thambi

she looks mexican the more i look at her. on the surface yes she could pass as typical in india, punjab also but would look atypical the more you look at her. Kind of like the saudi princess who could pass as indian superficially but looking at the features more she clearly looks arab.

but yeah interesting videos. so indians were taken as slaves to the middle east and sold to many different places in west asia and europe. so migration was there but many were taken out of their own will. Even afghans, uzbkes, central asians took indian slaves. Its terrible. Damn i never knew indians were used as slaves in the surrounding nations. I need to study that region's history more. its quite shocking and embarrassing to say the least. I really feel sorry for the roma people.

the good thing is the villagers welcomed her, and seem to be her friends. i dont know if that will be true for majority of indians, but the villagers in the video and there is also the head of the villagers i think liked her.

**Jana** · 11-04-2018, 09:39 AM

Beautiful lady in her youth, has noble look as older. Nice thread and good to see how accepting locals were

**Mortimer** · 11-05-2018, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Jana

Beautiful lady in her youth, has noble look as older. Nice thread and good to see how accepting locals were

thanks.

**Tauromachos** · 11-05-2018, 12:26 AM

To me she looks like she can pass as native Indian/South Asian easily

Don't know if more as Punjabi or another region but i suppose she passes as Punjabi

**Mingle** · 11-05-2018, 12:34 AM

She's Norwegian Roma? She looks very dark for what I'd imagine a Roma from Northern Europe to look like. I wonder if her family migrated from Central/Southeast Europe to Norway or if her family has lived in Norway for centuries. Karoli is also a surname used by Hungarians so my assumption before watching the video was she was a Roma from Hungary. If her ancestors migrated from C/SE Europe to Norway, then its possible she isn't originally from the Karoli village. In fact, I find it unlikely she's from the Karoli village as people in South Asia don't typically use surnames based off which village they're from. It seems more likely to me that she got the surname "Karoli" in Europe and by coincidence a village with that name existed in Punjab. Regardless of if she's originally from the Karoli village or not, she is obviously originally from somewhere in that part of the world, so it ultimately doesn't make that huge of a difference. And it was nice to see her being welcomed by people who had zero personal connection to her. She passes as typical in Punjab.

**Mortimer** · 11-05-2018, 12:39 AM

Originally Posted by Mingle

She's Norwegian Roma? She looks very dark for what I'd imagine a Roma from Northern Europe to look like. I wonder if her family migrated from Central/Southeast Europe to Norway or if her family has lived in Norway for centuries. Karoli is also a surname used by Hungarians so my assumption before watching the video was she was a Roma from Hungary. If her ancestors migrated from C/SE Europe to Norway, then its possible she isn't originally from the Karoli village. In fact, I find it unlikely she's from the Karoli village as people in South Asia don't typically use surnames based off which village they're from. It seems more likely to me that she got the surname "Karoli" in Europe and by coincidence a village with that name existed in Punjab. Regardless of if she's originally from the Karoli village or not, she is obviously originally from somewhere in that part of the world, so it ultimately doesn't make that huge of a difference. And it was nice to see her being welcomed by people who had zero personal connection to her. She passes as typical in Punjab.

not sure, i dont know the story to her name but maybe she has "family knowledge" that her surname is indian? and now she found a village in punjab with that name. dont know.