Roma woman in Punjab village searching for her roots

[Mortimer]

Mestizos did not go out from Spain, they were created in America. Gypsies did go out from India, they were created there.
Bad example.

modern day gypsies were created when they left india, even the name gypsy gitano zigeuner etc. is of european origins, if they never left india they wouldnt exist who they are. same as if spaniards never went to americas mestizos wouldnt exist. its a reasonable comparison. and not all gypsies look that indian

this guys doesnt for example



and actually many do show visible westerneuroasian influences if you look closer they are not only "indian"

[Cristiano viejo]

modern day gypsies were created when they left india, even the name gypsy gitano zigeuner etc. is of european origins, if they never left india they wouldnt exist who they are. same as if spaniards never went to americas mestizos wouldnt exist. its a reasonable comparison. and not all gypsies look that indian

this guys doesnt for example



and actually many do show visible westerneuroasian influences if you look closer they are not only "indian"

Their appearance does not matter, it is like if you claim this Spaniard does not belong to Spain because is too blonde

[Mark]

and actually many do show visible westerneuroasian influences if you look closer they are not only "indian"

I would not guess them as Roma. But since I am not in Europe, I have an untrained eye. I do not see many Roma here, even though there are plenty in the US.

[Zuh]

modern day gypsies were created when they left india, even the name gypsy gitano zigeuner etc. is of european origins, if they never left india they wouldnt exist who they are. same as if spaniards never went to americas mestizos wouldnt exist. its a reasonable comparison. and not all gypsies look that indian

this guys doesnt for example



and actually many do show visible westerneuroasian influences if you look closer they are not only "indian"

Cristiano viejo theory mestizos will never be Spanish and in my mind when I see white Mexicans in Mexico I be like they " well never be true Mexicans" they are just adopted Mexicans.

[Mortimer]

Their appearance does not matter, it is like if you claim this Spaniard does not belong to Spain because is too blonde

you could also say that "their appearance" doesnt matter and all gypsies belong to europe therefore. genetically they are just not indian only and culturally neither. they are a mixed/creole culture even their language is a creole language. objectively they belong as much to europe as they belong to india. but i said you just want to get rid of the gypsies, therefore you say india but you probably wouldnt mind if they were deported to some remote island and isolated either probably. objectively they just dont belong only to india.

[Mark]

Their appearance does not matter, it is like if you claim this Spaniard does not belong to Spain because is too blonde :rolleyes

I think I already know the answer to this question. 'neither' lol.
But... if you were forced to chose to marry between a Jew (who practices Catholicism) or a Roma (who practices Catholicism), which one to chose?

[Mortimer]

I would not guess them as Roma. But since I am not in Europe, I have an untrained eye. I do not see many Roma here, even though there are plenty in the US.

even if someone looks more roma he doesnt neccessarily look fully indian. these other two guys look more visibly roma but its visible they are not only indian. roma are not only indian and thats my point, in some it looks like as if they are only indian but as a group you see influences that they are not only.

[tipirneni]

Their appearance does not matter, it is like if you claim this Spaniard does not belong to Spain because is too blonde

It coming from colonies. not the other way. Spanish are integrated into Europe but not the colonies.


Whereas India is a distinct country & the Indian emigre are all integrated into respective countries. Indians are the world's biggest diaspora & workers

[Mark]

even if someone looks more roma he doesnt neccessarily look fully indian. these other two guys look more visibly roma but its visible they are not only indian. roma are not only indian and thats my point, in some it looks like as if they are only indian but as a group you see influences that they are not only.

I understand your point. But I will also say that subject #3 in that picture I would not think to be Roma.

[Mortimer]

I understand your point. But I will also say that subject #3 in that picture I would not think to be Roma.

I would also not think that your father is a jew or you. But you are. And people classified this guy as "gypsy looking" I had a classification thread for him, but I personally think that he is not recognisable as roma really, he can be something else. But he is roma.