A question for greek users

[Aspirin]

I have a debate with one person from Ukraine, who identify himself as a "greek", and after I posted in one russian group about Mediterraneans, a post about Constantius Chlorus, the father of Constantine the Great, he wrote what word Chlorus ( Χλωρός) what today means green, but not pale, as how this word was interpreted by greeks and byzantine historians, has nothing to do with the word pale, and all internet sources about this are fake. I started to explain to this idiot, what in ancient greek language this word maybe had many meanings, but he pretend to be a true greek expert, that all the historical sources are fake, and only he one knows the true history. Can greek users from this forum help me on this question?

This is from english wikipedia:

Constantius I (Latin: Marcus Flavius Valerius Constantius Herculius Augustus; 31 March c. 250 – 25 July 306), commonly known as Constantius Chlorus (Greek: Κωνστάντιος Χλωρός, Kōnstantios Khlōrós, literally "Constantius the Pale"), was Roman co-emperor from 293 to 306. He was the father of Constantine the Great and founder of the Constantinian dynasty.

This is from greek wikipedia:

Ο Φλάβιος Βαλέριος Κωνστάντιος ή Κωνστάντιος Α΄ (Gaius Flavius Valerius Constantius, 31 Μαρτίου 250 - 25 Ιουλίου 306) ήταν Ρωμαίος αυτοκράτορας από το 293 έως το 306, κυρίως γνωστός ως Κωνστάντιος Χλωρός χάρη στους βυζαντινούς ιστορικούς που του έδωσαν το προσωνύμιο «Χλωρός» (Chlorus) δηλαδή «Ο Χλωμός», λόγω του χλωμού του προσώπου. Ήταν ο πατέρας του Μεγάλου Κωνσταντίνου και ιδρυτής της Δυναστείας του Κωνσταντίνου.

This I found on greek wikipedia:

[nightrider+]

Χλωρός doesn't mean pale indeed. That would be χλωμός. Χλωρός means something like freshly green/tender.

edit: Although you could argue that in way of color they can be close, χλωμός has a negative connotation (like sickened), while χλωρός is more like fresh but immature.

[Papastratosels26]

Χλωρός doesn't mean pale indeed. That would be χλωμός. Χλωρός means something like freshly green/tender.

edit: Although you could argue that in way of color they can be close, χλωμός has a negative connotation (like sickened), while χλωρός is more like fresh but immature.

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[Aspirin]

Χλωρός doesn't mean pale indeed. That would be χλωμός. Χλωρός means something like freshly green/tender.

edit: Although you could argue that in way of color they can be close, χλωμός has a negative connotation (like sickened), while χλωρός is more like fresh but immature.

Could this word have and other meanings in the past? Languages evolve through time, and greek language is not an exception.

[nightrider+]

Could this word have and other meanings in the past? Languages evolve through time, and greek language is not an exception.

Could be but I see no evidence of this.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%8...81%CF%8C%CF%82

Greek wiki page you posted looks like a straight translation from the (inaccurate) English one, so most likely a fuck up.

[Aspirin]

Could be but I see no evidence of this.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CF%8...81%CF%8C%CF%82

Greek wiki page you posted looks like a straight translation from the (inaccurate) English one, so most likely a fuck up.

This is another greek source, where Χλωρός is used as meaning of paleness, not the word χλωμός what basically mean pale. I believe what maybe in the past this word had a different meaning than today, this is why I adressed this question here, since here are many greek users, not fake ones who pretend to be.

Ως γενέτειρα πόλη του Μεγάλου Κωνσταντίνου αναφέρεται τόσο η Ταρσός της Κιλικίας όσο και το Δρέπανο της Βιθυνίας. Ωστόσο η άποψη που επικρατεί φέρει τον Μέγα Κωνσταντίνο να έχει γεννηθεί στη Ναϊσό της Άνω Μοισίας (σημερινή Νις της Σερβίας). Το ακριβές έτος της γεννήσεώς του δεν είναι γνωστό, θεωρείται όμως ότι γεννήθηκε μεταξύ των ετών 272-288 μ.Χ.

Πατέρας του ήταν ο Κωνστάντιος, που λόγω της χλωμότητος του προσώπου του ονομάσθηκε Χλωρός, και ήταν συγγενής του αυτοκράτορα Κλαυδίου. Μητέρα του ήταν η Αγία Ελένη, θυγατέρα ενός πανδοχέως από το Δρέπανο της Βιθυνίας.

[nightrider+]

This is another greek source, where Χλωρός is used as meaning of paleness, not the word χλωμός what basically mean pale. I believe what maybe in the past this word had a different meaning than today, this is why I adressed this question here, since here are many greek users, not fake ones who pretend to be.

I found this in many Greek sites but no citations anywhere. It's like everyone copied it from wikipedia which wouldn't surprise me tbh. Pm Scholarios, maybe he knows something more.

[Aspirin]

I found this in many Greek sites but no citations anywhere. It's like everyone copied it from wikipedia which wouldn't surprise me tbh. Pm Scholarios, maybe he knows something more.

Weird. I thought what greeks have their own sources, especially byzantines one. This information about his name you will find in every language from romanian to russian, everywhere the word Χλωρός is interpreted as meaning of pale. In russian wikipedia is wrote what the nickname Chlorus is given by late byzantine historians, with a connection link to this source, some kind of old german encyclopedia: https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/RE:Constantius_1

[Aspirin]

I found this in many Greek sites but no citations anywhere. It's like everyone copied it from wikipedia which wouldn't surprise me tbh. Pm Scholarios, maybe he knows something more.

I found and this explanation of his nickname:

He is often called Constantius "Chlorus" from the pallor of his complexion. However, some contemporary sources refer to the rubor of his complexion. Therefore, the epithet "Chlorus" must be either a contemporary jest or a late tradition.

[Queen B]

Χλωρός doesn't mean pale indeed. That would be χλωμός. Χλωρός means something like freshly green/tender.

edit: Although you could argue that in way of color they can be close, χλωμός has a negative connotation (like sickened), while χλωρός is more like fresh but immature.

This,