Romania Y-DNA similarity with neighboring countries

**Carpatz** · 11-06-2018, 06:49 AM

**~~ixulescu~~** · 11-16-2018, 05:43 PM

hey Carpatz, what's the source of this map?

oh, I see, it's eupedia.

**~~Dacul~~** · 12-22-2018, 08:46 PM

We do not have deep clades analysis.
I understand that the I2-din from Romania is different from I2-din from Slavic speaking countries.
Besides, how the distances were calculated?
Because Romania should be clearly closer to South Sweden than to Russia, you know?
Because I2 is closer to I1.
The map is pure BS.
No offense.

**Ayetooey** · 12-22-2018, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dacul

We do not have deep clades analysis.
I understand that the I2-din from Romania is different from I2-din from Slavic speaking countries.

It isn't.

**~~Dacul~~** · 12-22-2018, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

It isn't.

Because you say so,or how come?
An Albanian mate actually show me that are 3 large I2-din branches.
Romania has a different branch, from the I2-din from Slavic speaking countries.
There is a thread on Eupedia, I will talk to that Albanian mate, to bring him here so he post the genetic testing.
Fact - most Romanians score lots on East Balkanic admixture, which is close to Central Italian admixture, not to Slavic admixture.

**Kelmendasi** · 12-22-2018, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Dacul

We do not have deep clades analysis.
I understand that the I2-din from Romania is different from I2-din from Slavic speaking countries.

From what I know the I2a1b-Din in Romanians is from the same clades as the Slavs. They all fall under I2a-Y3120.

**Kelmendasi** · 12-22-2018, 08:50 PM

The map is based on broad Y-DNA classifications, for example the creator seems to have just used haplogroups like J2 and not specific groups such as J2a or J2b2.

**Ayetooey** · 12-22-2018, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Dacul

Because you say so,or how come?

It's predominently I2a1b DS as far as I know, the same in Romania, Serbia, Croatia etc. Ukraine isn't exactly far from Romania so it's no surprise slavic Y dna is present. It could only be significantly different if it was I2a2 which is native Balkanite and completely separate.

**~~Aspar~~** · 12-22-2018, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by Dacul

We do not have deep clades analysis.
I understand that the I2-din from Romania is different from I2-din from Slavic speaking countries.

I2- Dinaric in Romania is the same as the one in the Slavic countries!
More specifically I-Y3120, https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3120/ with TMRCA 2200 ybp!
Romanians have around 28% according Eupedia and it's of Slavic origin!

**~~Dacul~~** · 12-22-2018, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by Ayetooey

It's predominently I2a1b DS as far as I know, the same in Romania, Serbia, Croatia etc. Ukraine isn't exactly far from Romania so it's no surprise slavic Y dna is present. It could only be significantly different if it was I2a2 which is native Balkanite and completely separate.

I2-din is not "Slavic DNA", is Thracian-Dacian and East Germanic DNA.
Slavic tribes assimilated Thraco-Gots from North of Romania, which started to speak Slavic and no longer after, they migrated to current Yugoslavia lands.
I2b1 is clearly spread only and only by East Germanic speakers, I1 is spread only by Norse Germanic speakers and West Germanic speakers.
So, somehow I2-din which is about 2500 yrs different from I2b1 become "Slavic".
Oh really.