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    Quote Originally Posted by Dacul View Post
    How about Slavic people leave us Romanians alone, with their theories that we have Slavic DNA, because you know, this is Romania section of the forum?
    Have I come to post in Serbia or Croatia or Bosnia or Ukraine or Czech Republic forums to tell that I2-din from there is related to Thracians?
    I do not think so.
    So, leave Romanians to post here.
    I think the Romanian mate should have started to write in Romanian, to filter out Slavs from here.
    what do you have against slavs ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    I2a-Y3120 certainly isn't Daco-Thracian. It's origin is in the area between Poland, Ukraine, and Belarus and it expanded from that region during the early Medieval. Clearly it has Slavic origin. It is likely that originally it's ancestral clade came from NW Europe and was carried by Germanic speakers. But it is certain that it was absorbed into the Slavic ethnos and expanded with them
    When Dacul speaks about a native branch of I2a I think he is getting confused perhaps with I2a2 which is paleo-balkanic I believe?

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    my paternal origin is vlach and i will find my dna maybe next week. i predict e1b for me,but who knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nato View Post
    my paternal origin is vlach and i will find my dna maybe next week. i predict e1b for me, but maybe it's wrong
    Depends on where your paternal Vlach origin is from, plenty of Vlach's are slavic I2a1b.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    Depends on where your paternal Vlach origin is from, plenty of Vlach's are slavic I2a1b.
    from somewhere between montenegro serbia and bosnia. that guy migrated to slovenia in 18th century

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    I2a1 is not slavic This marker originated from the non slavic Starčevo–Kőrös–Criș culture:

    https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/starcevo_culture.shtml

    By the way the I haplogroup is not indo-european but mesolithic european, the one and only native european marker. The I2a1 branch is related to thracians, dacians, illyrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    I2a1 is not slavic This marker originated from the non slavic Starčevo–Kőrös–Criș culture:

    https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/starcevo_culture.shtml

    By the way the I haplogroup is not indo-european but mesolithic european, the one and only native european marker. The I2a1 branch is related to thracians, dacians, illyrians.
    i2a in starčevo isnt dinaric subclade, it's older

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kis_Kócos View Post
    I2a1 is not slavic This marker originated from the non slavic Starčevo–Kőrös–Criș culture:

    https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/starcevo_culture.shtml

    By the way the I haplogroup is not indo-european but mesolithic european, the one and only native european marker. The I2a1 branch is related to thracians, dacians, illyrians.
    I haplogroup isn't Indoeuropean, it is proto/native European, we all know that. It certainly isn't related to Illyrians, who were R1b and Indo-Europeans. I'm pretty sure subclades in Starcevo don't patch I2a1b Dinaric, Starcevo was mainly G2a.

    "In human remains of Starčevo culture in four investigated samples (Lipson et al., 2017) were found three different Y haplogroups: H2, G2a2a1 and G2a2b2b1a".

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    there was lot of i2a even in neolithic cultures from assimilated hunter gatherers,but that was way before dinaric mutation which is pretty young, neolithic sardinians are also mostly i2a1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayetooey View Post
    When Dacul speaks about a native branch of I2a I think he is getting confused perhaps with I2a2 which is paleo-balkanic I believe?
    I'm pretty sure he is talking about I2a1b-CTS10228, as he is referring to I2a-Din. I2a2a was found in multiple ancient Balkan samples, some dating back to the Mesolithic. I2a2 though was found across Europe and originated somewhere in Europe during the Epipaleolithic. But it is worth to mention that a large amount of I2a2 carriers in the Balkans today belong to clades linked to Germanic expansion.
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