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    The Meskhian ansamble "Vardzia" - "My Meskheti"



    Historical Meskheti is divided between modern Turkey and Georgia.
    Meskhians themsevles are in minority in modern Meskheti after Russian/Osman occupation of the region.
    It was settled by two empires witi Turkish, Kurdish, Turkmen, Russian, Armenian etc population to create there ethnical diversity and assimilate local population.
    In Georgian Meskheti there settled also other Kartvelian subethnoses and ethnographical groups too.
    The most funny thing is that Turks and Armenian singers often sing and make clips also about Meskheti as their own lands. showing Meskhian cassltes, towers and churches and arguing that they are there aboriginal.
    Though Indo-Europeans and Turkics can not be there aboriginal. Armenians migrated there only in the 19th century, Anatolian Turks in the 17-18 th centuries. but their propagandists with their clips are very funny.

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    The medival principality of Samtskhe (Meskheti) - the most glorious pages in the history of the Meskhian people


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    Very Turkified


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    Meskheti is divided now between Georgia (Adjara, Samtskhe-Saatabago) and Turkey (Artvin province)

    Artvin "Turkish" culture is in reality Meskhian culture but official Turkey does not recignize ethnic minorities and tries to Turkified them all with their cultures. There is now settled Turkish populated who copypasted culture of locals


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    Turkey Meskheti Meskhians from Klarji tribe

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    Wait, are they different from Meskhetian Turks / Ahiska Turks? Their name and story sounds very familliar. I was just watching videos of Ahiska Turks who were forcefully removed from their homes and deported to Central Asia, while others are currently living in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anxiety View Post
    Wait, are they different from Meskhetian Turks / Ahiska Turks? Their name and story sounds very familliar. I was just watching videos of Ahiska Turks who were forcefully removed from their homes and deported to Central Asia, while others are currently living in Turkey.
    "Ahiska Turks" are in reality Anatolian Turks, Terekeme people, Kurds and Turkified Meskhians who were deported in 1944 called "Turks" by Moscow

    Turkified Meskhians how I know call themselves "yerli" or "native" Muslims.

    They all live isolated and dont mix with each other.

    After Muslim Meskhians were deported from Samtskhe-Javakheti written as Turks, there stayed only Christian Meskhians. Some "Ahiska Turks" of Meskhian origin returned home and restored their surnames and nacionality.

    They have a lot of in common of course.

    Whats about deported Ahiska Kurds and Terekemians they were nomad people and did not live in Meskhian villages together. So how I know they are quite different from "native Muslims"

    Whats about Anatolians Turks who lived in Samtskhe (Ahiska in Turkish) they lived together with Muslim Meskhians. How I was told they are now mixed with each other but "natives" remember which of families are Anatolian migrants of Osman period calling them "gelme" or "arrivers".

    They both speak Turkish language, have Turkish dances and music. But the "native Muslims" look like other Kartvelians, for example have long hoocked noses and sometimes have Georgian surnames like Chkeidze, Baratashvili, Eristavi, Beridze etc

    Whats about not assimilated Meskhians they are much more original even those who live in Artvin province and have Turkish cultural influence

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