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Fair enough, ofcourse you're all entitled to consider yourselves as you wish. I was just stating it from a "what is considered an Australian citizen point of view". My parents migrated here and my dad considers himself very Australian as do I. Very interesting that you consider yourself only first generation.
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There are some people that have been here for generations and are not even really sure of where their family originally came from just some vague notions of "England and I think we have some Irish etc" so they are Australian IMO. I've been here for most of my life but I never say "I'm Australian" even though there are people here a lot less years than myself but consider themselves just Australian. Some people come as adults and consider themselves "Australian". It is just an individual thing. I have my own identity and don't really care what other people label me. Some people insist I'm Australian because I've been here most of my life and when in Ireland some consider me Irish and some don't. I don't have any identity issues myself. In Australia they are very inclusive and if you went to school here and came out as a kid like I did they consider you an Aussie. Some famous Australians like Olivia Newton-John, Mel Gibson and ACDC were not born here but are considered Australian. I personally think if you were born overseas you have to consider that country as part of your identity as well but people have different opinions. I like Australia and think it is a great country and most of my experiences are here but I still identify as Irish and know the history, culture, genetics etc. Sometimes I think the diaspora of an ethnicity can feel more attached than people that have always lived in their country of origin.
Luckily I don't have any conflicts though because Australian and Irish culture has a lot of similarities and they are both western countries so there is no clash of civilisations or identity issues going on. Australians don't have any issues with Irish either so you don't have any problems integrating and your children definitely won't.
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Thank you for educating me about Australia and Australians.
I didn't mention an Australian ethnicity, but there is an Australian people at least approaching an ethnicity, that is the Anglo-Celtic Aussies whose identity and mixed ancestry goes back in this country to Colonial times, and whom the formal Australian nation was founded by and for, until the floodgates were opened to everyone else post-war. People who are first generation are not as Australian as multi-generationals with roots in the country, it's nonsense to suggest they are. None of my family were Anzacs at Gallipoli or in WWII, which is something central to Australian identity.
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I'm sorry, sir, I didn't mean to be smug. I understand what you mean, however I think that would better apply to the US, 'cause the US has an older white population going back to the 13 colonies (the 17th century), while in Australia the oldest families have been there for 200 years at best, since it was discovered only in the late 18th century.
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