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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    I score similar Germanic to Danielion.
    Well I remember that Danielion also had a weird "Eastern" quirk in his DNA. Plus, he can even pass as Russian phenotype.

    Russians have some Germanic from the Vikings etc.

    Just because some Prussian Germans score Germanic, does not mean it is from Ostsiedlung. It can be from the Vandals.

    And Poles assimilated the Vandals based on this:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...nd-year-247-AD

    Adam of Bremen wrote:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_of_Bremen

    "Sclavania igitur, amplissima Germaniae provintia, a Winulis incolitur, qui olim dicti sum Wandali; decies maior esse fertur nostra Saxonia, presertim si Boemiam et eos, qui trans Oddaram sunt, Polanos, quaia nec habitu nec lingua discrepant, in partem adiecreris Sclavaniae."

    In English:

    "Slavia, the largest province of Germania, is inhabited by Winuls [Wends?], who used to be called Vandals. They say that it is larger than our Saxony, especially if we include to Slavia also Bohemians and Polans on the other side of the Oder, who are no different in language or custom."

    Procopius, "History of the Wars", III, XXII, 13-16 wrote about those Vandals who stayed in their previous homeland:

    "(...) Now as for those Vandals who remained in their native land, neither remembrance nor any name of them has been preserved to my time. (...) they were either overpowered by the neighbouring barbarians [Slavs] or they were mingled with them [Slavs] not at all unwillingly and their name gave way to that of their conquerors. Indeed, when the Vandals were conquered at that time by Belisarius, no thought occurred to them to go from there to their ancestral homes. For they were not able to convey themselves suddenly from Libya to Europe, especially as they had no ships at hand, but paid the penalty [2] there for all the wrongs they had done the Romans and especially the Zacynthians. (...)"

    ^^^
    Vandals / Lugians:


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    Historical revisionism at its best.

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    My nickname being Danielski neither helps. It might be in my genes to be infatuated by Slavic cultures. Gortazar still thinks it's just ignorance and I'd unlearn it as soon as I learn more about Slavic mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    (...)
    Von Hochbergs after WW1 wanted independent Silesia and to become its kings, but they went bankrupt after 1929 and lost their castles:

    https://newsbeezer.com/polandeng/or-...-zdjecia-film/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielion View Post
    and I'd unlearn it as soon as I learn more about Slavic mentality.
    If Slavic mentality is about being a troll then you are almost as good at it as our Tryzub, Lyssyi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Here is how the city was named in sources from the past:

    Year 1009 - Wrotizla
    Year 1018 - Wortizlava
    Year 1133 - Vuartizlau
    Year 1175 - Wrezlaue
    Year 1201 - Wreczelaw
    Year 1295 - Wratislavia
    Year 1327 - Wretslaw
    Year 1620 - Presslaw
    Year 1763 - Bresslau

    Year 1819 - Breslau (polnisch Wraclaw)*

    *From a Prussian document.

    The etymology is from a Slavic given name (of the city's founder), Wrocisław:

    https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21055914

    Breslau is Standard German, but in Lower Silesian German dialect it is called Brassel.
    In Dutch Breslau. Some say Wroclaw but most can't pronounce it. All Polish cities still have their German names in Dutch except for Poznan and Gdynia.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    In Dutch Breslau. Some say Wroclaw but most can't pronounce it. All Polish cities still have their German names in Dutch except for Poznan and Gdynia.
    Gdynia was first mentioned in 1253 as Gdina, but it was just a Kashubian fishing village until the Inter-War Period, when Poland decided to build a city and a harbour there because of Customs War with Germany and because Gdansk had been hostile to Poland during the Polish-Bolshevik War of 1919-1921 (lots of ethnic German Commie sympathizers and Nazi sympathizers there).

    Poland also constructed a brand new railway from Upper Silesia to the new city of Gdynia for the purpose of faster transportation of coal and other products of Silesian mining and industry to its new harbour at the Baltic coast. The railway was called magistrala węglowa.

    Germans called Gdynia - Gdingen.

    Until 1939 trade output of Gdynia exceeded that of Gdansk and Danzigers were becoming poor losers because of that, but they asked for it by forgetting that Poland and its trade had been feeding their mouths for centuries. Being Anti-Polish when you are dependent on the Vistula River for your well-being is truly stupidity.

    Hitler renamed Gdynia - Gotenhaven during WW2.

    My grandfather's brother was a merchant in Gdynia before the war, Germans murdered him in November 1939 in Operation Tannenberg:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg

    ^^^
    Part of Intelligenzaktion Pommern:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...aktion_Pommern
    Last edited by Peterski; 12-04-2018 at 12:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Gdynia was first mentioned in 1253 as Gdina, but it was just a Kashubian fishing village until the Inter-War Period, when Poland decided to build a city and a harbour there because of Customs War with Germany and because Gdansk had been hostile to Poland during the Polish-Bolshevik War of 1919-1921 (lots of ethnic German Commie sympathizers and Nazi sympathizers there).

    Poland also a brand new railway from Upper Silesia to the new city of Gdynia for the purpose of faster transportation of coal and other products of Silesian mining and industry to its new harbour at the Baltic coast. The railway was called magistrala węglowa.

    Germans called Gdynia - Gdingen.

    Until 1939 trade output of Gdynia exceeded that of Gdansk and Danzigers were becoming poor losers because of that, but they asked for it by forgetting that Poland and its trade had been feeding their mouths for centuries. Being Anti-Polish when you are dependent on the Fistula River for your well-being is truly stupidity.

    Hitler renamed Gdynia - Gotenhaven during WW2.

    My grandfather's brother was a merchant in Gdynia before the war, Germans murdered him in November 1939 in Operation Tannenberg:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tannenberg

    ^^^
    Part of Intelligenzaktion Pommern:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inte...aktion_Pommern
    I think you know my position on the use of German names in Poland so I don't need to expand there. Gdynia-Gdingen it should be.



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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lawspeaker View Post
    I think you know my position on the use of German names in Poland so I don't need to expand there. Gdynia-Gdingen it should be.
    None of these names have German etymology anyway.

    But neither does for example Köln, which is a name of Latin origin:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...f-Roman-origin

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    None of these names have German etymology anyway.

    But neither does for example Köln, which is a name of Latin origin:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...f-Roman-origin
    We' re all well aware of that here. No need to tell Dutchmen or Germans about the origins of cities along the Rhine.. We actually take pride in that here as there is a real contest of seniority between Nijmegen (Noviomagus) and Maastricht (Trajectum ad Mosam) in the Netherlands of whichever was found first. In fact Cologne was the Admin HQ of Germania Inferior as every Dutch, Belgian or German school child could tell you.



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