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The biggest damage from this is for BiH Croatians https://www.dw.com/sr/bih-opre%C4%8D...ika/a-62621476
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Kinda random, but who do the Vlach's descend from ? If that info is knwon
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Vlachs except Latin speaking Balkanites were also social caste who were mostly ethnic Serbs. Herzegovinian vlachs who are formed in 13-14th century as social caste were Serbian speakers in vast majority. Serbian DNA project after the 10 years of work determined y dna of high number of medieval Herzegovinian vlach clans, and the strongest haplo among them was I2a-Din.
- Mirilovići I2-PH3414
- Drobnjaci I1-FGC22045
- Banjani N-FGC28435
- Kriči J2b-M205
- Nikšići I2-PH908
- Ugarci-Dubravčići R1b-U152
- Krasojevići R1a-YP4278
- Vlahovići J1-ZS9949
- Vojnići I2-PH908
- Maleševci I2-PH908
- Predojevići I2-PH908
- Mataruge E-A18844
- Burmazi R1a or I2-PH908 or both
- Pilatovci I2-Y3120
Genetic descendants of this clans today exist among Serbs from Herzegovina and various other regions including Krajina. Descendants of some of these clans exist also among Croatians and Bosniaks. Of these clans on the list only Kriči and Mataruge were recorded as non-Slavic speakers, but they are serbified/slavized in 14th or 15th century.
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Since i mentioned Serbs of Vrlika area and their genetic in previous page, there are some old photos of them in traditional costumes mostly.
Goran Vujević (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goran_Vujević) on the photo left and Marko Dević (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marko_Dević) right, both originated from village Štikovo near Vrlika by father. Down Down is actress Snežana Bogdanović (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snežana_Bogdanović), she originated from same village by both parents. Father of Goran Vujević is Catholic. Vujević was only Catholic family in Štikovo, all others were Orthodox.
Stana Katić also have roots from Vrlika area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stana_Katic
Name Stana was pretty common among Serbian women from Dalmatian hinterland before 2WW. She was probably named by her grandma.
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Serbs from Bukovica area in northern Dalmatia in the past used words 'god' ('holiday', holy day') and 'gruntija' ('land'). Both words are different from Serbian standard ('praznik', 'svetac') and ('zemlja'). I am linking first one with English 'God' and German 'Gott', and second with English 'ground.' 'Gruntija' might be from some German borrowed word from A-H tome, but i think 'god' is much older. Those words wrote down ethnologist Vladimir Ardalić about 1900.
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Banned Albanian user Dibran claimed that Serbian family Arnaut from Vrlika area in Dalmatia is of Albanian origin, because Arnaut is Turkush word for Albanian and they are R1a-M458 same as he.
Member of Arnaut family is recently tested deeper, they are R1a-Y310326 and he has a close match with Montenegrin from Cetinje are https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y310326/
They have nothing to do with Albanians genetically. Surname Arnaut is created because they arrived to Dalmatia about 300 years ago from Old Montenegro around Lake Skadar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Skadar) where real Albanians (Arnauts) were also present.
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Down are Arnaut and Montenegrin, in the middle is another Krajina Serb (from Kordun - central Croatia) whose surname is Ćika and above him are Polack from Masovian Voivodeship and American https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-BY71087/
Ćika is distant from Arnaut and Montenegrin about 950 years. I wonder are all of them by direct paternal line descendants of some Slavic tribe from present day Poland which settled in the western Balkans in 6-7th century...
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Krajina Serb (border guard) from early 19th century.
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