View Poll Results: Would you like to see more, or less, US leadership on the world stage?

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  • I support unapologetic Sintashta-on-chariots like US interventionism worldwide

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  • A clear and assertive US leadership as a global hegemon is good for the world and I support it

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  • I prefer the US leadership as a broker of compromise between nations, taking into consideration their interests

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  • I would prefer only a limited role of the US and NATO, limited to collective defense rather than interventionism

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  • I would prefer the rise of multipolar world with different spheres of influences held by major nations and balance of power competition

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  • I would prefer complete withdrawal of the US into isolationism

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    I would prefer only a limited role of the US and NATO, limited to collective defense rather than interventionism
    And with NATO I mean (mainly) Western Europe, but I would like to see this NATO reformed to a "Global NATO" which encompasses America's allies in other areas as well (mainly Australia, New Zealand, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, Singapore but, perhaps, also Colombia and India).


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    I support the US scaling back its military presence and investing in education and infrastructure. The US isn't number 1 in anything except for military bases and exporting shitty pop culture worldwide. We should model ourselves on the Canadians, tbh. We should still have an effective and powerful military presence, but what we have currently is overkill.

    I chose the limited NATO option because I'm not entirely certain about the implications of a multipolar world, but ideally, Turkey should be ejected from NATO as a terrorist-sponsoring, backwards state.


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    American international politics are better than many people think, but always end up going through "evil". In my opinion U.S should decrease its participation.


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    America is an offshoot of the Anglo hegemony. They are our best shot to secure our hegemony against the EU and China which are starting to challenge us for dominance, though I'm a localist and detest most aspects of globalisation.

    The EU is trying to become one entity to challenge Anglo hegemony. I suspect that there are no shortage of people in France and Germany whose only gripe in regards to Anglo internationalism is that it's not French/German internationalism.

    Russians make a good show of making independent decisions that are contrary to the historically Anglo/EU-centric planning, but part of the planning has always been to find a way to merge Russia in. Merely the attempt to create closer ties between the Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches should be a dead giveaway. The EU's existence itself is an anathema to a American/British hegemony.
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    It costs heavily in terms of Money & Resources in International territories. Moderation should be shown when dealing with new issues that require lot of money from American banks. The world is not heavily bipolar or unipolar like before. There are more players willing to bet money & lives now

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    I would prefer for us to just become non interventionist and focus on ourselves tbh. The us did fine in the 19th century and the interwar period when we were isolationist. the fact that we spend so much on our military to maintain our informal empire is just absurd to me - I’d rather invest In home than Afghanistan, Europe, or the Middle East.

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    Much less. I can't believe people still ask for our help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post

    It refers to the idea that European lack of militarism and pacifism requires American protection and masculine energy for our collective defense



    So a kind of status quo?
    I know this is an old post, but I've always found it funny that there's a stereotype that the US is very militaristic and belligerent.

    There is not now nor has there ever been a time when Americans would accept the show of force and militarism of European police and security forces within their own borders, or the patriotism shown throughout Europe and the UK on certain times of the year, during parades, etc.

    I have known loads of Australian and Canadian guys who were part of a military cadet corps and spoke of it with pride when, in the US, if you were part of something like that (almost no one is) it would be something you hide.

    It was always with embarrassment that I, as part of the National Guard, had to wear my uniform in public (with the exception of 'miltary towns', of course, which, like the handful of White Supremacists in the US, are the ones you always see being exploited as 'typical' US values).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    There is not now nor has there ever been a time when Americans would accept the show of force and militarism of European police and security forces within their own borders, or the patriotism shown throughout Europe and the UK on certain times of the year, during parades, etc.
    Maybe not in your lifetime, but there were such military parades in the US from Washington's day until Eisenhower's and Kennedy's inaugurations which had tanks, nuclear missiles, military planes and long lines of marching soldiers and patriotic fanfares. Even today, American Southerners are more nationalistic than any western Europeans.

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    With the priorities the American elite have now? Total isolation. It’ll never happen but it should. Of course, if America lost the ability or will to be the muscle for the globalist agenda, the globalists would move on to somewhere else. But at least we’d be rid of them.

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