Do you prefer Islamic White or Non-White Secular?

[Alexandro]

Secularism is helpless in the face of hard religions, or political ideologies doubling as such.

Yes, because secular values do not have the undeserved respect or claim to tradition that religions enjoy, and are therefore under more scrutiny. The difference between "we believe that X is the case, because of some observable objective evidence that makes it look like X is the case" versus the viejito with a rosary around his neck who will beat you to a pulp with the bible.

Although, I was just referring to the fact that Teutone is now a pretty (or at least is playing the part of, who knows) devout Muslim.

[Andullero]

Yes, because secular values do not have the undeserved respect or claim to tradition that religions enjoy, and are therefore under more scrutiny. The difference between "we believe that X is the case, because of some observable objective evidence that makes it look like X is the case" versus the viejito with a rosary around his neck who will beat you to a pulp with the bible.

Although, I was just referring to the fact that Teutone is now a pretty (or at least is playing the part of, who knows) devout Muslim.

Yeah, I know about his path, and it is indicative of a larger trend to come. Even though their main advantage now is better birthrates than the locals, there's nothing stopping the Muslim faith from gaining a non-trivial amount of converts among the latter too.

[Rafael Passoni]

Non-white secular.

[Teutone]

This aged like milk,

Naive younger Teutone beliving in a possible conservative future with such a subhuman society like the German society.

Id ofc prefer a 0% islamic and 100% christian Germany but that aint going to happen, so I prefer a islamic over a atheist Germany. A lesser evil, not the ideal. As the stock of people will increase corruption and other things, but the liberal Germans are lazy, not innovative, naive enough that either way Germany will decline. Entire Europe will decline, the future of wealth, innovation and power is the asia pacific room.

Eiher way if soneone wants it or not, it going to happen.

[Nurzat]

I believe in the right of each person to follow his religion of choice but I personally prefer non-religious people of any kind/background to overly religious people of my kind. though my wife and her family are very religious, we can live together though it is at times frustrating not being able to bring some topics in the family (they are very conservative, I am very progressive, though not a feminist, not the sjw type, just an open-minded person)

[Mejgusu]

Beeing or not beeing covered doesn’t say or mean anything, i know uncovered women with a heart of an angel and covered women who could be seytans kahba. In my culture, there is nothing like „white“ or „non-white“ nonsense. There are either Turkish or non-Turkish, i prefer „same culture“ and „not the same culture“.

This aged like milk,

I even prefer this old Teutone over most members here. We discussed in the past a lot but he is more reputable than many who act „nicely“.

[Teutone]

I even prefer this old Teutone over most members here. We discussed in the past a lot but he is more reputable than many who act „nicely“.

aramam sormam bir daha
yalvarsan bile allaha
cikmasa gecem sabaha aramam

overly nice people have to cover a inner rat, thats why honorful Germans think sympathy gotta be earned.

[Zeno]

None.

Plus, Teutone's old comment has rotten quite morbidly.

[Benyzero]

Neither but Islam has no place in my country whatsoever in my opinion.

hahaha

[Östsvensk]

Yeah, I know about his path, and it is indicative of a larger trend to come. Even though their main advantage now is better birthrates than the locals, there's nothing stopping the Muslim faith from gaining a non-trivial amount of converts among the latter too.

Well, the Persians kind of kicked the Arabs out of their country while they were simultaneously becoming Muslims themselves.

One reason for Iran later turning Shia was also to disown the Arabic ethnocentrism in Sunni Islam.