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    I think Jesus was probably divine, but it doesn't mean he is the only divine being. He was probably a Vishnu incarnation for the Semitic peoples. His message seemed to be good, although the Bible seems to contradict itself a lot - I like the image of him as peaceful guy, that said to turn the other cheek and was against use of force. That sounds like a divine message to me, peace love and understanding. So, I'm very appreciative of Jesus. I think he was divine, but idk if that makes me a Christian, since I'm not particular about it. I do not think he is the only divine being, or incarnation of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik View Post
    I think Jesus was probably divine, but it doesn't mean he is the only divine being. He was probably a Vishnu incarnation for the Semitic peoples. His message seemed to be good, although the Bible seems to contradict itself a lot - I like the image of him as peaceful guy, that said to turn the other cheek and was against use of force. That sounds like a divine message to me, peace love and understanding. So, I'm very appreciative of Jesus. I think he was divine, but idk if that makes me a Christian, since I'm not particular about it. I do not think he is the only divine being, or incarnation of it.
    No mate, you are wrong... Jesus is THE one... he is our creator. He is the only one that can give you eternal life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    No mate, you are wrong... Jesus is THE one... he is our creator. He is the only one that can give you eternal life.
    I have some questions then..why did Jesus pray to the Father instead of himself if he is *the* God? I guess the answer would be the trinity. But who is the father? Yahweh? Yahweh was a Southern Canaanite deity, whose worship was merged with the northern deity's - El/El Shaddai. Israel translates as may El persevere. The Book of Genesis is an El worship book. Meanwhile, the rest of the books in the Old Testament are centered around YHVH. The Rabbis explain this by saying that YHVH decided only to reveal his name to Moses/Moshe but not to Abraham..why not? I don't get it. Seems more like El/YHVH worship was blended when Israel became a unified Kingdom to me.

    And then, if *El* is God, why did he damn Adam and Eve's descendants just for what they did? And later on, YHVH, supposedly the same God, introduced a commandment, or mitzvot, not to punish a child for what their parent did. Here the Old Testament contradicts itself again. Also, why did El and YHVH require animal sacrifice? It seems like too much. YHVH at least introduced an "ethical" (Kosher) way to kill animals, but in actuality Kosher slaughterhouses are quite horrid. I have seen the videos. Same with Halal slaughter. The animal is clearly in much pain. They refuse to stun them before they slice their heads off because God never mentions it in their holy books. It's really primitive, honestly.

    With all that said, I do think Jesus was a significant man - people bore witness to his resurrection and died bearing witness to it. I think he was a divine being/incarnation of the divine, but I interpret this in a more 'Gnostic' way, are you familiar with Gnosticism? Most Christians (Catholic, Orthodox) consider it a heresy, but, I think they are the true heretics here. The Cathars were Gnostics and Pope Innocent burned them all alive because he thought their way of worshipping Jesus was heretic. The Catholic Church has done so many wicked things in history it's unbelievable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik View Post
    I have some questions then..why did Jesus pray to the Father instead of himself if he is *the* God? I guess the answer would be the trinity. But who is the father? Yahweh? Yahweh was a Southern Canaanite deity, whose worship was merged with the northern deity's - El/El Shaddai. Israel translates as may El persevere. The Book of Genesis is an El worship book. Meanwhile, the rest of the books in the Old Testament are centered around YHVH. The Rabbis explain this by saying that YHVH decided only to reveal his name to Moses/Moshe but not to Abraham..why not? I don't get it. Seems more like El/YHVH worship was blended when Israel became a unified Kingdom to me.

    And then, if *El* is God, why did he damn Adam and Eve's descendants just for what they did? And later on, YHVH, supposedly the same God, introduced a commandment, or mitzvot, not to punish a child for what their parent did. Here the Old Testament contradicts itself again. Also, why did El and YHVH require animal sacrifice? It seems like too much. YHVH at least introduced an "ethical" (Kosher) way to kill animals, but in actuality Kosher slaughterhouses are quite horrid. I have seen the videos. Same with Halal slaughter. The animal is clearly in much pain. They refuse to stun them before they slice their heads off because God never mentions it in their holy books. It's really primitive, honestly.

    With all that said, I do think Jesus was a significant man - people bore witness to his resurrection and died bearing witness to it. I think he was a divine being/incarnation of the divine, but I interpret this in a more 'Gnostic' way, are you familiar with Gnosticism? Most Christians (Catholic, Orthodox) consider it a heresy, but, I think they are the true heretics here. The Cathars were Gnostics and Pope Innocent burned them all alive because he thought their way of worshipping Jesus was heretic. The Catholic Church has done so many wicked things in history it's unbelievable!
    I will look at your questions later and asnwer them, but I'll split the thread so as to not pollute this good one with unbelief. You have too much unbelief that you cannot see the truth about Jesus.

    I will quickly answer and say Gnosticism is wrong, it is of the devil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik View Post
    I think Jesus was probably divine, but it doesn't mean he is the only divine being. He was probably a Vishnu incarnation for the Semitic peoples. His message seemed to be good, although the Bible seems to contradict itself a lot - I like the image of him as peaceful guy, that said to turn the other cheek and was against use of force. That sounds like a divine message to me, peace love and understanding. So, I'm very appreciative of Jesus. I think he was divine, but idk if that makes me a Christian, since I'm not particular about it. I do not think he is the only divine being, or incarnation of it.
    Yeah each religion has its own definition of divinity & concepts of birth & heaven. Hindus have more collective record from last Holocene compared to other religions. There is more literature too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    Yeah each religion has its own definition of divinity & concepts of birth & heaven. Hindus have more collective record from last Holocene compared to other religions. There is more literature too.
    The difference is, Jesus is not just another religion like Hinduism or Islam... Jesus is the truth... the only true God and saviour of mankind. And one day everyone will see him, and bow before him. But it's better to receive and accept him now as your Lord and Saviour, before it's too late.
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    The amount of literature pertaining to general life, after life, divine life, devotee life etc... are more clearly written down in Eastern religions like Hindu, Jain & Buddhism long time back during ancient times.
    Whereas religions coming from Abraham concentrates more on the actual God, his Son & his relation to the world & order of the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    The amount of literature pertaining to general life, after life, divine life, devotee life etc... are more clearly written down in Eastern religions like Hindu, Jain & Buddhism long time back during ancient times.
    Whereas religions coming from Abraham concentrates more on the actual God, his Son & his relation to the world & order of the world.
    That's an interesting way to look at it (although I don't really agree).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    The amount of literature pertaining to general life, after life, divine life, devotee life etc... are more clearly written down in Eastern religions like Hindu, Jain & Buddhism long time back during ancient times.
    Whereas religions coming from Abraham concentrates more on the actual God, his Son & his relation to the world & order of the world.
    All that literature is pointless, means nothing. Because it's a false religion created by Satan and his fallen angels. Jesus is the only truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    The difference is, Jesus is not just another religion like Hinduism or Islam... Jesus is the truth... the only true God and saviour of mankind. And one day everyone will see him, and bow before him. But it's better to receive and accept him now as your Lord and Saviour, before it's too late.
    If you are cash rich willing for adventure I would see lot of clever people willing to join you for a prayer.

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