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Thread: Do you support independent Eastern Canada?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    That day is also a holiday in Australia?

    It is curious that Canada is more pro-British than the United Kingdom itself.
    Dunno.

    Used to be. Its not really the case any longer- most younger and even middle aged Anglo-Canadians feel very little, if any ties, to Britain...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Wog View Post
    No! Not at all!!
    I like that you do not support separatism and division

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaloon View Post
    Dunno.

    Used to be. Its not really the case any longer- most younger and even middle aged Anglo-Canadians feel very little, if any ties, to Britain...
    I read that Queen Elizabeth is also the monarch of Canada and has some power in Canada but does not use them because it does not correspond and it is not her responsibility either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawrenceMartinez View Post
    I support any kind of separatism since the majority of the people living there agree with it
    That's a non sequitur. Quebec voted against secession in 1980 and again in 1995.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    That's a non sequitur. Quebec voted against secession in 1980 and again in 1995.
    Yeah, but last time it was 50/50 and for some reason they don't have any new refferendums since 1995.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Yeah, but last time it was 50/50 and for some reason they don't have any new refferendums since 1995.
    Even if it had been 50% plus one, that's hardly signals mandate to secede. Nor would such a thing serve the interests of democracy. At some point it would - e.g., 90% for secession is pretty fair as a mandate. As a Russian, you might well feel the same, as Crimea only slightly preferred Ukraine's secession from the Soviet Union (54% of the vote in Crimea, specifically - in contrast, all the Donbas supported independence by at least 83%). I don't pretend to know where the best cutoff should be, but at least this view recognizes that a large segment of the electorate (albeit perhaps not a majority) has a fundamentally different view, which should also be respected. Because maintaining the status quo is inherently less radical, secession should require a supermajority, not just a simple majority.

    But, in fact--not only did a supermajority NOT support Quebec's independence in 1995--it wasn't even a majority. 49.42% voted to secede, and 50.58%.

    Furthermore, there is no indication that support for Quebec independence has grown since 1995. If anything, it seems like the opposite may be true. See: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...ence-1.3788110

    So there's no justification even for a third referendum.

    And this rationale definitely also applies to something like Brexit.

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    Sure why not. I want my own piece of Canada too.

    Give them independence then invade them just for fun.

    Surely there's a precedent for that, somewhere, sometime.
    Last edited by Thorns; 12-30-2018 at 01:19 PM.
    https://i.imgur.com/Wpjac1i.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorns View Post
    Sure why not. I want my own piece of Canada too.

    Give them independence then invade them just for fun.

    Surely there's a precedent for that, somewhere, sometime.
    USA in the past tried to invade Canada and failed because it would be different now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Böri View Post
    How about Catalonia? Or accepting Russia swallowing half of Ukraine? Or maybe Basques, Celtic Bretons, Protestant Frisians etc.
    Better countries to stay unite.
    That Frisian language problem has been sorted out a long time ago here (1953). Except for the fact that we still need to increase provincial sovereignty.



    Wake up and smell the coffee.


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    I dont care.

    But its worth noting that Eastern Canada there are large English and French speaking regions.
    There is difference between Quebec and Atlantic Canada too.

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