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Should I buy G25 coordinates? List pros and cons. I am expecting a debate
Pros:
- another calculator that can give a different perspective
- good calculator according to certain members
Cons:
- costs some money
- not a good calculator according to certain members
Last edited by Universe; 08-15-2020 at 12:11 PM.
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Future of the genetic community lies in G25. You should buy while it is still cheap.
qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.
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I don't know much about g25 tbh. I heard it's based on k15.Originally Posted by Kaspias
yes you should, I guess it is not to everyone's taste (nothing is to everyone's taste) but it is an entertaining tool.
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It is based on a Eurogenes calculator which has 25 components. (which is not released publicly) The newly arrived data on ancient genomes are can be found in G25 SS and Davidski updating it regularly. So the main reason is accessibility to ancient DNA and 3rd party tools developed based on G25 coordinates such as various calculators or other stuff.
qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.
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Not worth it in my opinion because 12 EUR/USD (whatever currency it is) isn't small money.
For modern populations it's horrible for east Europeans (very scarce and poor references), for ancients is is very good indeed but you don't struck me as type so interested in ancient origins.
And K13 added almost same ancient samples G25 has (it's still little behind perhaps but getting there), so you have it covered.
My advice - don't buy it.
But you should make your own decision
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i would summarize the good calc/bad calc argument like this...Pros:
- another calculator that can give a different perspective
- has good reputation according to certain members
Cons:
- costs some money
- not a good calculator according to certain members
cons
- sometimes gives very similar results as k13, so it doesn't offer much of a diferrent perspective.
- modern populations are lacking
- has problems with calculating proportions of some very ancient or distant admixtures, like Asian and African in Europeans, or Iran Neolithic
pros
-can measure Yamnaya/WHG/EEF influence more accurately than k13.
-includes some ancient samples that aren't publicly available otherwise.
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I also want to add problem isn't with G25 tool (which I like), problem is with David's modern references, lack of regional samples and unrepresetative modern national east euro averages.
People here throw money on any genetic toy that comes out, use it wisely.
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The reference populations may be improved in the future.
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Yes, and than I would consider buying it (if I already didn't).
IMO in your place I would save money and invest to find out more about your Y/mt DNA. It may be small part of genome after all but it's something unique to you and can shed light on your direct paternal/maternal origins.
For example: http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=11788
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