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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    Okinawa until a century ago was considered a colony of Japan.
    But today it isn't, so what's your point?

    Falklands and Gibraltar have representation in the British Parliament?
    Nope. That's what makes them colonies.

    Other colonies (nowadays termed Overseas Territories): Akrotiri and Dekhelia, Diego Garcia, Pitcairn & Henderson, Bermuda, South Georgia & South Sandwich, Turks & Caicos, Montserrat, Caymans, Anguilla, Virgin Islands, St Helena, Ascencion Island & Tristan da Cunha, British Antarctic Territory.

    Dependencies: Jersey, Guernsey, Man.
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    So the British have nothing of their own and feel the need to steal to fill a void. Okay. So when can we nuke your shithole to teach you manners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    So the British have nothing of their own and feel the need to steal to fill a void. Okay.
    we take a few items from backwards countries with no money in lieu of payment for services rendered. for example, we freed you from the Ottomans and created your country, so we took a few statues

    So when can we nuke your shithole to teach you manners.
    when you advance beyond the stone age and build yourself a nuke, you vermin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    But today it isn't, so what's your point?



    Nope. That's what makes them colonies.

    Other colonies (nowadays termed Overseas Territories): Akrotiri and Dekhelia, Diego Garcia, Pitcairn & Henderson, Bermuda, South Georgia & South Sandwich, Turks & Caicos, Montserrat, Caymans, Anguilla, Virgin Islands, St Helena, Ascencion Island & Tristan da Cunha, British Antarctic Territory.

    Dependencies: Jersey, Guernsey, Man.
    My point is that it is not necessary to be an empire to have colonies.

    And the United Kingdom has overseas regions with sovereignty in parliament?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    And the United Kingdom has overseas regions with sovereignty in parliament?
    No. We do not do that. Some of our colonies, like Malta (and more famously the USA) requested this, but we denied it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    No. We do not do that. Some of our colonies, like Malta (and more famously the USA) requested this, but we denied it.
    USA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    USA?
    In the 1770s the Thirteen Colonies that would become the USA demanded representation in Parliament and for some bizarre reason King George III said no. That's why they revolted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    In the 1770s the Thirteen Colonies that would become the USA demanded representation in Parliament and for some bizarre reason King George III said no. That's why they revolted.
    If in addition by the high taxes and the little freedom that they had the 13 colonies.
    The United States also asked Canada for help to become independent, and Canada refused the aid. By denying the aid, the Americans tried to invade Canada and annex it, but they failed.

    And does not Canada, Australia and New Zealand have no representative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruggery View Post
    If in addition by the high taxes and the little freedom that they had the 13 colonies.
    The United States also asked Canada for help to become independent, and Canada refused the aid. By denying the aid, the Americans tried to invade Canada and annex it, but they failed.

    And does not Canada, Australia and New Zealand have no representative?
    Canada, Australia and New Zealand are now independent countries, so, no. They never had representation when they weren't, either.
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