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    Quote Originally Posted by caviezel View Post
    It cant be funded by Soros since Soros is backing Macron so it might be funded by the Koch brothers.
    Or maybe - and this is a shocker - it's neither. There isn't always a puppet master. Have you ever heard the average person saying, "I love a higher tax on fuel and other things that will effect my standard of living negatively"?

    We have finally reached the point where some people think every issue or problem involves a conspiracy because it's easier to think this way than actually being aware of what is going on in the world by doing the work. Thank you internet (sarcasm).

    Many people involved in riots are simply there for the riots. Protests draws all types of people. Rioting and looting is fun for many people. It could be a protest about some people thinking puppies are cuter than kittens and you'll draw more than just the people who think one way or another. Once a spark is lit it becomes a snow ball effect and the violence draws in more people whose only interest is to fuck shit up.
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    If it's not a protest against racism it's an illegitimate protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artabro View Post
    The average French citiizen usually hates everything that comes from the UK. There has never been a politician as anglophobic as Charles de Gaulle.
    On the other hand, the whole press of the UK is furiously pro Brexit: The Telegraph, The Daily Mail, The Sun, The Times... all of them, but The Guardian.
    Charles de Gaulle died in the last century. He was very anti American and there was a lot of hostility between them.

    We have between 300,000 and 400,000 French citizens living in London today, making London officially the sixth largest French speaking city in the world.

    The UK mainstream media constantly puts out daily fearmongering propaganda against UK independence from the EU.
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    Don't these Frenchies realize that this fuel tax will curb global warming by one one millionth of a degree over a thousand year period!?!! Such insolent swine!

    A United Nations special climate report suggests a tax on carbon dioxide emissions would need to be as high as $27,000 per ton at the end of the century to effectively limit global warming.

    For Americans, that’s the same as a $240 per gallon tax on gasoline in the year 2100, should such a recommendation be adopted. In 2030, the report says a carbon tax would need to be as high as $5,500 — that’s equivalent to a $49 per gallon gas tax.

    If you think that’s an unlikely scenario, you’re probably not wrong. However, it’s what the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s report, released Sunday night, sees as a policy option for reducing emissions enough to keep projected warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius.

    The IPCC’s report is meant to galvanize political support for doubling down on the Paris climate accord ahead of a U.N. climate summit scheduled for December. The report calls for societal changes that are “unprecedented in terms of scale” in order to limit future global warming to below 1.5 degrees Celsius, the stretch goal of the Paris accord.

    However, the costs of meeting that goal are high based on the IPCC’s own figures. (RELATED: Here’s What The Media Won’t Tell You About The U.N.’s New Climate Report)

    In order to effectively keep future warming below 1.5 degrees Celsius, the IPCC says carbon taxes would need to range from $135 to $5,500 per ton in 2030, $245 to $13,000 per ton in 2050, $420 to $17,000 per ton in 2070 and $690 to $27,000 per ton in 2100.

    To meet the goals of the Paris accord, which seeks to limit future warming to below 2 degrees Celsius, the IPCC says carbon taxes would have range between $10 and $200 in 2030 and $160 and $2,125 in 2100.

    That’s equivalent to a gas tax as high as $1.70 per gallon in 2030 to nearly $19 per gallon at the end of the century. That’s less onerous than limiting warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius, but still no walk in the park.


    California and many European countries have policies to price carbon dioxide emissions and mandate green energy, including cap-and-trade systems and carbon taxes. But carbon prices under those systems are nowhere near where the IPCC says they need to be.

    The IPCC said the “price of carbon would need to increase significantly when a higher level of stringency is pursued.” However, the group’s report tacitly acknowledges the unlikelihood that governments will enact astronomical taxes on energy.

    “While the price of carbon is central to prompt mitigation pathways compatible with 1.5 [degree Celsius]-consistent pathways, a complementary mix of stringent policies is required,” reads the IPCC’s report.

    In the U.S., Republican lawmakers overwhelmingly passed a resolution opposed to carbon taxes in July. Democrats called for a price on carbon dioxide in their 2016 party platform, but they haven’t made much effort on that front since the failure of cap-and-trade legislation in 2010.

    Republican Rep. Carlos Curbelo of Florida introduced carbon tax legislation shortly after all but five of his GOP colleagues in the House voted to oppose such a bill. Curbelo’s bill would tax carbon dioxide at $23 a ton — nowhere near what the IPCC calls for.

    However, the IPCC suggested a lower carbon tax could be used in conjunction with command and control policies, like regulations and bans on coal plants, could achieve “generate a 1.5˚C pathway for the U.S. electric sector.”

    But that point only serves to undermine Curbelo’s bill, which would put a moratorium on some environmental regulations and possibly eliminate some if emissions goals are reached.

    The IPCC noted the “literature indicates that the pricing of emissions is relevant but needs to be complemented with other policies to drive the required changes in line with 1.5°C-consistent cost-effective pathways.”
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dai...carbon-pricing

    In other words, this fuel tax doesn't really do anything except generate revenue for the government, presumably to cut deficits, or to continue funding other programs.

    And of course, these reports are highly questionable to begin with.

    And how are the French going to save the world if this fuel tax only raises the price by the equivalent of 12 cents a gallon? I assume the report was referring to taxes at those levels across the globe, in every country.

    Clearly you would need to almost entirely remove the need for fossil fuels, which would effectively make any such tax meaningless at that point.

    Also, talking about a $49/gallon tax effectively destroys your economy anyways. In any case, people use the amount of fuel they need, making them pay more for it doesn't reduce their current needs. They just won't be able to afford to continue life as they have previously. Everything comes to a screeching halt.

    Meanwhile, the rest of world carries on as usual, and nothing about the course of the climate changes, you've accomplished absolutely nothing except shooting yourself in the foot, it is madness.

    If you really want to cool the planet, a nuclear winter might work better.

    To see what climate effects such a regional nuclear conflict might have, scientists from NASA and other institutions modeled a war involving a hundred Hiroshima-level bombs, each packing the equivalent of 15,000 tons of TNT—just 0.03 percent of the world's current nuclear arsenal.

    The researchers predicted the resulting fires would kick up roughly five million metric tons of black carbon into the upper part of the troposphere, the lowest layer of the Earth's atmosphere.

    In NASA climate models, this carbon then absorbed solar heat and, like a hot-air balloon, quickly lofted even higher, where the soot would take much longer to clear from the sky.

    Reversing Global Warming?

    The global cooling caused by these high carbon clouds wouldn't be as catastrophic as a superpower-versus-superpower nuclear winter, but "the effects would still be regarded as leading to unprecedented climate change," research physical scientist Luke Oman said during a press briefing Friday at a meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C.

    Earth is currently in a long-term warming trend. After a regional nuclear war, though, average global temperatures would drop by 2.25 degrees F (1.25 degrees C) for two to three years afterward, the models suggest.

    At the extreme, the tropics, Europe, Asia, and Alaska would cool by 5.4 to 7.2 degrees F (3 to 4 degrees C), according to the models. Parts of the Arctic and Antarctic would actually warm a bit, due to shifted wind and ocean-circulation patterns, the researchers said.
    After ten years, average global temperatures would still be 0.9 degree F (0.5 degree C) lower than before the nuclear war, the models predict.

    For a time Earth would likely be a colder, hungrier planet.

    "Our results suggest that agriculture could be severely impacted, especially in areas that are susceptible to late-spring and early-fall frosts," said Oman, of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland.

    "Examples similar to the crop failures and famines experienced following the Mount Tambora eruption in 1815 could be widespread and last several years," he added. That Indonesian volcano ushered in "the year without summer," a time of famines and unrest. (See pictures of the Mount Tambora eruption.)

    All these changes would also alter circulation patterns in the tropical atmosphere, reducing precipitation by 10 percent globally for one to four years, the scientists said. Even after seven years, global average precipitation would be 5 percent lower than it was before the conflict, according to the model.

    In addition, researcher Michael Mills, of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado, found large decreases in the protective ozone layer, leading to much more ultraviolet radiation reaching Earth's surface and harming the environment and people.
    "The main message from our work," NASA's Oman said, "would be that even a regional nuclear conflict would have global consequences."
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/relay.n...climate-change

    With the added benefit of countless millions of fossil fuel hungry peasants starving to death or dying in other various fashions (joking of course).
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    COUNTER ATTACK

    Brutal moment Paris riot cops batter defenceless protesters with batons in Burger King after shoving them to floor




    Shocking video shows French riot police battering yellow vest protesters with clubs inside a branch of Burger King

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    In Paris on 13 protesters charged with damage to the arc de Triomphe

    December 5, 2018

    In Paris (France) 13 detainees charged with causing damage to the arc de Triomphe during the protests. It is reported RBC-Ukraine, referring to Liberation.

    Three accused, including one juvenile placed in detention cells awaiting trial, other law enforcement agencies was released on bail.

    The detainees are accused of “harming the object of cultural heritage”.

    Note, the protesters, who opposed the increase in fuel prices, left on the walls of the arc de Triomphe, one of the symbols of France, the inscriptions like “Macron resign”, “the triumph of the yellow jackets.”

    Note, in the course of protests in France killed four people. The victims of the protests may become more – in a coma is a 28-year-old man injured in Saturday’s clashes with police in Toulouse.

    The Paris police reported that as a result of clashes on 1 December between protesters against the increase in fuel taxes from 2019 and police officers were arrested 412 people, 133 people were injured, including police officers.

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    Army on the way to Paris? PHOTOS & VIDEOS of French armored vehicles on the move emerge online


    Photos and videos of armored vehicles allegedly approaching Paris to be deployed during Saturday’s protests have appeared on Twitter. Earlier, the French PM promised military police vehicles at the rallies.

    Even though the government dropped the fuel tax hike after mass protests last week, the Yellow Vests will still march on December 8.

    On Thursday evening, Prime Minister Edouard Philippe promised 8,000 additional officers in Paris and 89,000 nationwide to be deployed during the protests. He also announced that “a dozen armored vehicles” belonging to the French Gendarmerie will be rolling on the streets of the City of Lights.

    https://www.rt.com/news/445816-franc...cles-protests/

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    Arrogant President Macron has been very hostile towards the UK over Brexit and he made unpopular demands upon our nation... and now he's imposing high fuel prices on to the poor French citizens. What an arsehole Macron is - along with traitor Theresa May and greedy Angela Merkel. Three of the worst pigs in the EU;- Merkel, Macron, and May.

    The Sun and The Telegraph are the only two Brexit supporting newspapers in the UK (the rest are anti Brexit and pro EU.)

    The Sun has pointed out what many Leave supporters in the UK have been thinking after seeing the riots in France;- the same civil anger and fury that's happening in France could soon erupt in the UK if our Brexit votes are ignored on 11th December and we become a slave state of the EU with no power and no say in the EU, or if we're forced into a second referendum.



    Paris on lockdown: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/792289...nons-rage-day/

    If I was French, I would've voted for Marine Le Pen in the French elections.
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    To all the forces of the order mobilized today, thank you for the courage and the exceptional professionalism which you showed.

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