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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post
    Nice bro! Your genealogical tree is well researched
    There are a number of undocumented and false lines of descent from Pocohontas. The only verifiible ones come from Thomas Rolfe.

    There is no primary documentation that the Christian "Pettus" listed in the OP's tree is the son of Thomas Pettus; or that Thomas Pettus had children with a daughter of Pocohontas.

    The source of this descent are a number of books written within living memory, based on oral histories.

    The questionable nature of this line is outlined here: http://www.indianreservations.net/20...addington.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by apcar View Post
    There are a number of undocumented and false lines of descent from Pocohontas. The only verifiible ones come from Thomas Rolfe.

    There is no primary documentation that the Christian "Pettus" listed in the OP's tree is the son of Thomas Pettus; or that Thomas Pettus had children with a daughter of Pocohontas.

    The source of this descent are a number of books written within living memory, based on oral histories.

    The questionable nature of this line is outlined here: http://www.indianreservations.net/20...addington.html
    That isn't true. First of all, their daughters name was not Christian Pettus. It was Kaokee Jane . Kaokee is the feminized version of her father's name Kaokum. Kaokee, a full blooded Patawomeck Indian, married Colonel Thomas Pettus, and they had a daughter named Christian. The tribal historians say that Pocahontas was married BEFORE John Rolfe to another member of her tribe named Kaokum. She would have only been about 13 or 14 at the time. Her father disapproved of the marriage, so it was kept as a secret for many moons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    That isn't true. First of all, their daughters name was not Christian Pettus. It was Kaokee Jane . Kaokee is the feminized version of her father's name Kaokum. Kaokee, a full blooded Patawomeck Indian, married Colonel Thomas Pettus, and they had a daughter named Christian. The tribal historians say that Pocahontas was married BEFORE John Rolfe to another member of her tribe named Kaokum. She would have only been about 13 or 14 at the time. Her father disapproved of the marriage, so it was kept as a secret for many moons.
    You have essentially verified what I posted, for which you have voted me down.

    There is no primary documentation that this is true. It's based on word of mouth going back around 300 years, seemingly first recorded in 1957. Adding it to a tree without noting that it is based on a 300 year old oral history is bad genealogy and leads to the story being reproduced all over the internet as fact, with all the sources stripped out.

    I didn't say the daughter of Pocahontas was Christian Pettus. But there is no primary evidence that Christian Pettus exisisted. As noted in the link (from primary sources) she seems to have been invented by conflating two people with Christian Pettus, for whom there is no primary source of her existance. There is also a historical fallacy in this story, as noted in the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apcar View Post
    You have essentially verified what I posted, for which you have voted me down.

    There is no primary documentation that this is true. It's based on word of mouth going back around 300 years, seemingly first recorded in 1957. Adding it to a tree without noting that it is based on a 300 year old oral history is bad genealogy and leads to the story being reproduced all over the internet as fact, with all the sources stripped out.

    I didn't say the daughter of Pocahontas was Christian Pettus. But there is no primary evidence that Christian Pettus exisisted. As noted in the link (from primary sources) she seems to have been invented by conflating two people with Christian Pettus, for whom there is no primary source of her existance. There is also a historical fallacy in this story, as noted in the article.
    yes there is much evidence. It was revealed that it was a hidden history. The truth is Chief Powhatan did not like Kaokum , and he didn't honor the marriage between he and Pocahontas. So their marriage was kept secret as was their daughter Kaokee.

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    Why do you speak with a kind of british accent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Why do you speak with a kind of british accent?
    It's not British. I am an American.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richmondbread View Post
    It's not British. I am an American.
    Some of your pronounces sound something britsh like tô me. Maybe it is only my impression XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catarinense1998 View Post
    Some of your pronounces sound something britsh like tô me. Maybe it is only my impression XD
    I get that a lot. I don't know, maybe it's because its kind of Southern.

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    Kaokee never existed. She was thought of as male until bill deyo made up a bunch of shit

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    Why does every website on this supposed "Kaokee" go back to your cousin Bill Deyo? Why is it their zero historical documents on her life, and no evidence she was ever born or existed anywhere? You are ORD.

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