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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post
    Very interesting Lilly thank you for sharing this, I have forgotten about Sir Francis Drake and the fact that there were pirates with knighthoods
    Francis Drake was a simple pirate who was defeated by Spaniards over and over until that he was died in America.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin View Post
    Spain had a big problem dealing with pirates.
    Not so big at all. Piracy is overrated. Between 1540 and 1650 around 11.000 Spanish ships did the journey between America and Spain, of which 519 were lost, most by storms, and only 107 by enemy attacks, the 0.5% of the total losses.

    From the book "Tercios de España, la infantería legendaria", pag.106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Francis Drake was a simple pirate who was defeated by Spaniards over and over until that he was died in America.



    Not so big at all. Piracy is overrated. Between 1540 and 1650 around 11.000 Spanish ships did the journey between America and Spain, of which 519 were lost, most by storms, and only 107 by enemy attacks, the 0.5% of the total losses.

    From the book "Tercios de España, la infantería legendaria", pag.106
    Cristiano we know Spain was the most powerful empire in the entire universe (I've mentioned you in the thread opening as inb4 )

    But didn't the pirates do a lot of damage to Spanish transatlantic trade routes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post
    Cristiano we know Spain was the most powerful empire in the entire universe (I've mentioned you in the thread opening as inb4 )

    But didn't the pirates do a lot of damage to Spanish transatlantic trade routes?
    No, as I already have posted above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post
    Very interesting Lilly thank you for sharing this, I have forgotten about Sir Francis Drake and the fact that there were pirates with knighthoods

    Sir Francis Drake (c. 1540 – 28 January 1596) was an English sea captain, privateer (a pirate with a licence from the Queen,) slave trader, naval officer and explorer of the Elizabethan era.

    Drake carried out the second circumnavigation of the world in a single expedition, from 1577 to 1580, and was the first to complete the voyage as captain while leading the expedition throughout the entire circumnavigation.

    With his incursion into the Pacific Ocean, he claimed what is now California for the English and inaugurated an era of conflict with the Spanish on the western coast of the Americas, an area that had previously been largely unexplored by western shipping.

    Elizabeth I awarded Drake a knighthood in 1581 which he received on the Golden Hind in Deptford.

    As a Vice Admiral, he was second-in-command of the English fleet in the battle against the Spanish Armada in 1588.

    Drake's exploits made him a hero to the English, but his privateering led the Spanish to brand him a pirate, known to them as El Draque.

    King Philip II of Spain allegedly offered a reward for his capture or death of 20,000 ducats, about £6 million (US$8 million) in modern currency.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Drake

    Sir Walter Raleigh was an English landed gentleman, writer, poet, soldier, politician, courtier, spy and explorer.

    He one of the most notable figures of the Elizabethan era. In 2002, he was featured in the BBC poll of the 100 Greatest Britons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ♥ Lily ♥ View Post
    King Philip II of Spain allegedly offered a reward for his capture or death of 20,000 ducats, about £6 million (US$8 million) in modern currency.
    He saved such amounts

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    The Golden Age of Piracy.

    The Golden Age of Piracy is a common designation given to usually one or more outbursts of piracy in the maritime history of the early modern period. In its broadest accepted definition, the Golden Age of Piracy spans the 1650s to the late 1720s and covers three separate outbursts of piracy:

    The buccaneering period of approximately 1650 to 1680, characterized by Anglo-French seamen based on Jamaica and Tortuga attacking Spanish colonies and shipping in the Caribbean and eastern Pacific.

    The Pirate Round of the 1690s, associated with long-distance voyages from the Americas to rob Muslim and East India Company targets in the Indian Ocean and Red Sea.

    The post-Spanish Succession period extending from 1716 to 1726, when Anglo-American sailors and privateers, left unemployed by the end of the War of the Spanish Succession, turned en masse to piracy in the Caribbean, the North American eastern seaboard, the West African coast, and the Indian Ocean.

    Narrower definitions of the Golden Age sometimes exclude the first or second periods, but most include at least some portion of the third. The modern conception of pirates as depicted in popular culture is derived largely, although not always accurately, from the Golden Age of Piracy.

    Factors contributing to piracy during the Golden Age included the rise in quantities of valuable cargoes being shipped to Europe over vast ocean areas, reduced European navies in certain regions, the training and experience that many sailors had gained in European navies (particularly the Royal Navy), and ineffective government in European overseas colonies.

    The colonial powers at the time constantly fought with pirates and engaged in several notable battles and other related events.

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    A list of 167 famous English pirates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:English_pirates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emptor View Post
    Cristiano we know Spain was the most powerful empire in the entire universe (I've mentioned you in the thread opening as inb4 )

    But didn't the pirates do a lot of damage to Spanish transatlantic trade routes?
    Piracy wasnt that big in the 1500s. I would imagine it was more relevant in the early 1700s to early 1800s.

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