Vasconcelos' results bucket

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 12-04-2018, 01:21 PM

I've decided to follow FilhoV's idea and gather up some results so people can check a random Portuguese, although my results might not be typical since they generally seem rather central Spanish. It has been suggested I might have some Basque ancestry, but I'm very skeptical.
PCAs will be mostly using the alias Ruderico as that's my username elsewhere.

I won't be posting any new photos, but I'll link the old classification threads I made, if that's a thing you care about (I personally don't anymore). If you're interested but can't be arsed to view the links it's just the typical Atlantomed and/or Atlantid spam with a few people listing unlikely places such as British Isles and whatnot. Even Russia, what the heck.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...89-Classify-me
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...me-Vasconcelos

I'm mostly North Central Portuguese and my ancestry is overwhelmingly from these two regions: Dão Lafões and Tâmega e Sousa

Since I favour Davidski's calculators, as they give me the best and most consistent results, I'll only be posting results from his calculators and/or analysis. I'll be bolding a few uncommon things results

Eurogenes K13
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 39.42
2 West_Med 28.51
3 East_Med 12.04
4 Baltic 9.58
5 Red_Sea 4.47
6 Northeast_African 2.6
7 Sub-Saharan 1.13
8 West_Asian 1.05
9 Siberian 0.59
10 East_Asian 0.58
11 Oceanian 0.04

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 3.11
2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 3.29
3 Spanish_Extremadura 3.6
4 Spanish_Galicia 3.86
5 Spanish_Murcia 3.9
6 Portuguese 4.32
7 Spanish_Andalucia 4.39
8 Spanish_Cantabria 4.42
9 Spanish_Valencia 5.02
10 Spanish_Aragon 5.35
11 Spanish_Cataluna 5.65
12 Southwest_French 6.86
13 North_Italian 11.6
14 French 12.2
15 French_Basque 16.35
16 Tuscan 17.31
17 South_Dutch 18.17
18 West_German 18.65
19 Southwest_English 21.98
20 Southeast_English 22

K13 PCA plot

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 34.66
2 West_Med 22.82
3 North_Sea 15.44
4 East_Med 9.05
5 Baltic 6.16
6 Red_Sea 4.62
7 Northeast_African 2.9
8 Eastern_Euro 2.17
9 Sub-Saharan 1.05
10 Siberian 0.5
11 West_Asian 0.43
12 Southeast_Asian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Aragon 4.45
2 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 4.61
3 Spanish_Andalucia 5.38
4 Spanish_Valencia 5.44
5 Spanish_Cantabria 6.26
6 Southwest_French 6.51
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.79
8 Spanish_Murcia 6.97
9 Spanish_Extremadura 7.52
10 Spanish_Cataluna 8.57
11 Portuguese 9.21
12 Spanish_Galicia 11.07
13 French_Basque 11.99
14 North_Italian 13.12
15 French 16.21
16 Tuscan 18.39
17 South_Dutch 19.97
18 Southwest_English 22.85
19 Austrian 22.88
20 Serbian 23.22

K15 PCA plot

Eurogenes K36

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 5.57
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 2.68
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 2.08
East_Med 1.61
Eastern_Euro 3.28
Fennoscandian -
French 4.20
Iberian 32.03
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 13.70
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.87
North_African 6.20
North_Atlantic 8.16
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 6.56
Northeast_African 1.66
Oceanian -
Omotic 0.50
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.25
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 6.65

Lukasz K36 report
https://drive.google.com/file/d/14g5...ecESGCSa3/view

K36 similarity map

Lukasz K36 Correlation map

Lukasz K36 dendrogram

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 12-04-2018, 01:22 PM

Davidski's Celtic VS Germanic

PCA

LDA

Global 25
Portugal in mediumblue
Me in green

Unscaled - Iberian PCA

Unscaled - Iberia + North Africa

Unscaled - Iberia + West Europe

Unscaled - Iberia + West Europe w/o Sardinia

Scaled PCA

I ran a few simple models in poi's nMonte webtool using G25 scaled coordinates to find a good fit for me using modern samples, starting off from Castilla Y León since that's the average sample that is clearly closest to me. I improved it using an additional northern and southern source, the result was 7,5% Morocco; 60% León; and 32,5% Pais Vasco.
The geographic location of the result is in the map below as a white dot. The wierd x is my actual ancestry location centroid

Closest average distances:
Castilla Y León - 1.7617
Extremadura - 2.3430
Andalucia - 2.5650
La Mancha - 2.8180

Same thing with unscaled coordinates: 2,5% Morocco; 65% León; 32,5% Pais Vasco

Closest average distances:
Castilla Y León - 1.0767
Cantabria - 1.3530
Andalucia - 1.3560
Extremadura - 1.3850

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 01-25-2019, 03:51 PM

Ancestor locations - mostly in the 1700s

Dark green - most ancient paternal ancestor (late 1600s)

Green - paternal grandfather's ancestors
Blue - paternal grandmother's ancestors
Clay - maternal grandfather's ancestors
Yellow - maternal grandmother's ancestors

Close up

Global 25 unscaled

Cluster 8 is composed of Iberians, with the leftmost ones being Basques, and rightmost ones North Italians.
I'm the R

Eurogenes K15 graph

I'm the 2nd Portuguese result, red arrow

I think this is it, not much point adding more. Overall north/northwestern - or Basquish - shifted results for a Portuguese.
Thank you for your time

**Lucas** · 01-25-2019, 10:48 PM

DNA.LAND?

Geneplaza?

MyHeritage?

**FilhoV** · 03-06-2019, 04:43 PM

What is Scottish LBK?

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 03-06-2019, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by FilhoV

What is Scottish LBK?

Where do you see that? There's no such thing as Scottish LBK because Linearbandkeramik was in Central Europe, not the British Isles

**FilhoV** · 03-06-2019, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

Where do you see that? There's no such thing as Scottish LBK because Linearbandkeramik was in Central Europe, not the British Isles

I meant Scotland LBA

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 03-06-2019, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by FilhoV

I meant Scotland LBA

LBA - Late Bronze Age

[1] "distance%=2.6803"

Scotland_LBA

Yamnaya_Samara,58
LBK_N,33.8
WHG,8.2

**FilhoV** · 03-06-2019, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Vasconcelos

LBA - Late Bronze Age

[1] "distance%=2.6803"

Scotland_LBA

Yamnaya_Samara,58
LBK_N,33.8
WHG,8.2

Thanks

**~~Vasconcelos~~** · 03-06-2019, 06:45 PM

I decided to include a few nMonte models I made in the meanwhile, using the Global25 coordinates. PCA plot below includes all West Eurasian populations in the dataset, but was zoomed onto Iberia alone. I'm Ruderico

[1] "distance%=2.2305"

Ruderico

Hallstatt_Bylany,43.4
Iberia_BA,34.4
Roman_Collegno_o1,18.4
Iberomaurusian,3.8

Iberian regional references in the same model, for reference

Code:

[1] "distance%=1.1336"

         Portuguese

Hallstatt_Bylany,37.8
Iberia_BA,34
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,23.8
Iberomaurusian,4.4



[1] "distance%=0.8771"

         Spanish_Extremadura

Hallstatt_Bylany,35.8
Iberia_BA,35.6
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,24.2
Iberomaurusian,4.4



[1] "distance%=1.3905"

         Spanish_Galicia

Iberia_BA,39.6
Hallstatt_Bylany,31.6
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,24.8
Iberomaurusian,4



[1] "distance%=1.3863"

         Spanish_Cantabria

Iberia_BA,49.6
Hallstatt_Bylany,33.2
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,16.2
Iberomaurusian,1



[1] "distance%=1.2908"

         Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

Hallstatt_Bylany,45.2
Iberia_BA,30.8
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,19.8
Iberomaurusian,4.2



[1] "distance%=1.0367"

         Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

Iberia_BA,40.8
Hallstatt_Bylany,36
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,21.8
Iberomaurusian,1.4



[1] "distance%=1.1052"

         Spanish_Andalucia

Iberia_BA,38
Hallstatt_Bylany,34.8
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,25
Iberomaurusian,2.2



[1] "distance%=0.6667"

         Spanish_Murcia

Iberia_BA,39
Hallstatt_Bylany,34.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,24.4
Iberomaurusian,2.2



[1] "distance%=1.781"

         Spanish_Valencia

Hallstatt_Bylany,40.6
Iberia_BA,40.4
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,17.6
Iberomaurusian,1.4



[1] "distance%=1.1052"

         Spanish_Cataluna

Iberia_BA,40
Hallstatt_Bylany,37.8
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,20.2
Iberomaurusian,2



[1] "distance%=1.2159"

         Spanish_Aragon

Iberia_BA,45.4
Hallstatt_Bylany,34.2
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,18.4
Iberomaurusian,2



[1] "distance%=1.2659"

         Spanish_Baleares

Hallstatt_Bylany,39.8
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,30.2
Iberia_BA,29.4
Iberomaurusian,0.6



[1] "distance%=1.4812"

         Spanish_Canarias

Iberia_BA,38.6
Hallstatt_Bylany,30.6
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,22.8
Iberomaurusian,8

Adding SZ30 Lombard form Szólád, Hungary. She improves the fit greatly, for whatever reason:

[1] "distance%=1.7225"

Ruderico

Iberia_BA,38.8
Hungary_Medieval_Szolad,35.6
Italy_Medieval_Collegno_o1,14.4
Hallstatt_Bylany,7
Iberomaurusian,4.2

Slightly random locations which provide a good fit (gotten from Gradient Descent Algorithm):

[1] "distance%=1.5814"

Ruderico

Scotland_LBA,61.6
Ukraine_N_o,19.8
ALPc_MN,13
Iberomaurusian,5.6

Same with individual samples (England_CA_EBA wasn't picked up on the previous model, but was included on the dataset):

[1] "distance%=0.8188"

Ruderico

Scotland_LBA,39.6
ALPc_MN,21.4
England_CA_EBA,18.8
Ukraine_N_o,14.6
Iberomaurusian,5.6

Code:

[1] "distance%=3.6896"

         Scotland_LBA:I3130

Yamnaya_Samara,60
LBK_N,31.4
WHG,8.6

[1] "distance%=3.8735"

         England_CA_EBA:I2601

Yamnaya_Samara,56.6
LBK_N,29.6
WHG,13.8


[1] "distance%=4.1538"

         Hungary_Medieval_Szolad:SZ30

Yamnaya_Samara,56.4
LBK_N,38.6
WHG,5