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  • Influences from mainland Greece, including Slavic input, filtering to some of the islands.

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  • Less post-Neolithic Near Eastern input to dilute the ancient Indo-European component.

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  • Some combination of the two.

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  • Neither explanation makes sense/other (specify in comments).

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Thread: Which explanation makes most sense for higher NE European in some Aegean islanders?

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    Default Which explanation makes most sense for higher NE European in some Aegean islanders?

    See the following results on Dodecad K12b. "North European" here peaks in Lithuanians, Finns, Russians. Note that the average for Sicily is 11% (with some individuals I see scoring below 10%), and most Cretans/Dodecanese score around there while most mainland Greeks are in the 22-25%.

    North Aegeans, Cyclades, and some of the northernmost Dodecanese like Tilos/Patmos have higher Baltic/NE European. Why?

    Samos:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 33.94
    2 Atlantic_Med 25.98
    3 North_European 19.12
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.02
    5 Gedrosia 7.08
    6 Northwest_African 1.46
    7 South_Asian 0.7
    8 East_Asian 0.55
    9 East_African 0.09
    10 Southeast_Asian 0.08

    Samos:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.16
    2 Atlantic_Med 25.69
    3 North_European 17.51
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.57
    5 Gedrosia 6.95
    6 Northwest_African 3.03
    7 Siberian 0.75
    8 South_Asian 0.33

    Chios/Samos:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.99
    2 Atlantic_Med 30.33
    3 North_European 16.5
    4 Southwest_Asian 10.09
    5 Gedrosia 4.6
    6 Northwest_African 2.27
    7 South_Asian 0.39
    8 Southeast_Asian 0.33
    9 Siberian 0.28
    10 East_African 0.22

    Tilos:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 37.31
    2 Atlantic_Med 24.82
    3 North_European 17.86
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.21
    5 Gedrosia 5.87
    6 Northwest_African 1.42
    7 South_Asian 1.19
    8 East_Asian 0.32

    Patmos:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 36
    2 Atlantic_Med 26.62
    3 North_European 16.49
    4 Southwest_Asian 10.84
    5 Gedrosia 7.05
    6 Northwest_African 1.56
    7 Siberian 0.69
    8 East_Asian 0.42
    9 South_Asian 0.32

    Chios:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 34.11
    2 Atlantic_Med 22.73
    3 North_European 21.54
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.22
    5 Gedrosia 7.62
    6 Northwest_African 1.79
    7 South_Asian 0.58
    8 East_Asian 0.41

    Chios:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 38.86
    2 Atlantic_Med 23.77
    3 North_European 17.04
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.81
    5 Gedrosia 8.14
    6 Northwest_African 0.38

    Chios:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 37.29
    2 Atlantic_Med 23.67
    3 North_European 16.55
    4 Southwest_Asian 12.12
    5 Gedrosia 7.77
    6 Northwest_African 1.45
    7 Siberian 0.87
    8 Sub_Saharan 0.29

    Cyclades:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 35.04
    2 Atlantic_Med 26.63
    3 North_European 15.27
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.56
    5 Gedrosia 6.32
    6 Northwest_African 4.43
    7 East_Asian 0.57
    8 Siberian 0.19

    Cyclades:
    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasus 33.78
    2 Atlantic_Med 25.16
    3 North_European 17.96
    4 Southwest_Asian 11.26
    5 Gedrosia 8.01
    6 Northwest_African 2.85
    7 Siberian 0.74
    8 East_Asian 0.25

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    I wouldn't put much stock into these Gedmatch calcs anymore.

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    Some Aegean Islanders have lower NE European
    Why?

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    lol at these figures being high... your high, doesnt seem much oxygen is going into your brain downgrading your IQ level.
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    Anything older than Eurogenes Global25 is pointless and only suitable for conspiracy theories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikeliot View Post
    See the following results on Dodecad K12b. "North European" here peaks in Lithuanians, Finns, Russians. Note that the average for Sicily is 11% (with some individuals I see scoring below 10%), and most Cretans/Dodecanese score around there while most mainland Greeks are in the 22-25%.

    North Aegeans, Cyclades, and some of the northernmost Dodecanese like Tilos/Patmos have higher Baltic/NE European. Why?
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    I wouldn't put much stock into these Gedmatch calcs anymore.
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    Anything older than Eurogenes Global25 is pointless and only suitable for conspiracy theories.
    This is completely bogus and a very unprofessional pseudo anthropology theory that has no basis in reality.

    Even the PUNJABI guy has higher 'North European'

    Population
    Gedrosia 35.41
    Siberian 1.61
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 5.85
    North_European 20.97
    South_Asian 26.26
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 0.59
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 9.31
    Sub_Saharan -

    He has higher Baltic and East European on K15 than most islanders too. How many times do I have to say these categories are NOT literal?

    Please tell everyone on TA now that Punjabi's have 'Slavic admixture'. Come on, man. It's getting old.

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    It's the second, relations are prehistoric, and Slavic immigrations have nothing to do with that:

    consider that Crete not only has received more 15th century mainlanders than any Aegean island, but also has nearly 15 more Slavic toponyms than all cyclades combined, yet cyclades are nearly identical to the mainland, but not Crete

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    Quote Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum View Post
    It's the second, relations are prehistoric, and Slavic immigrations have nothing to do with that:

    consider that Crete not only has received more 15th century mainlanders than any Aegean island, but also has nearly 15 more Slavic toponyms than all cyclades combined, yet cyclades are nearly identical to the mainland, but not Crete

    Many Cyclades and North Aegean islanders are close to Maniots, Apulians, etc. It seems like in the Aegean though, Ikaria is different than other North Aegeans. I have found Ikaria to be the island with the most similar results to Sicily.

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    More like nordid extraterrestrials abducted them to do experiences and used the situation to let descendants of them on Earth too

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